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Thread: 45% Slices on Weapons

zeroday
Sat Aug 23, 2003 1:04 pm
#131

totally

JChace029
Sat Aug 23, 2003 1:16 pm
#132

Thanks for the kind words Zhag, buit if your not careful, you might find yourself on here...


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Eclipse&message.id=52707


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Eclipse&message.id=53492

Zhagadska
Sat Aug 23, 2003 1:32 pm
#133

LOL


one day, you'll get added to my list!





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Retired : 1-27-06

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LimeyWisey
Sat Aug 23, 2003 1:42 pm
#134

here's my thoughts on what Rudd is doing


Perhaps he isn't really slicing 40-45%, but is instead tricking people into thinking he is. He has a crate of high quality cdef weapons. So when someone gives him a weapon that is cdef, but not as high quality, he slices a high quality one and gives them that instead. Then a 30% increase on his high quality cdef appears to be a 45% increase over the original cdef. In that case he is not exploiting a bug, just people's gullibility.


If this is what you're doing than it's very clever, although not ethical, and probably shouldn't be charging people any more than for a regular slice.


If this isn't what you're doing I'm sorry to imply any kind of trickery on your part





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Low-Light workting towards Rifleman/Combat Medic on Bria
Kryl13
Sat Aug 23, 2003 5:16 pm
#135

I, for one believe Rudd.


I would love to find his secret, butknow better than toask (He isnt being uncool, just protecting his profits, signs of a true smuggler)


hey rudd, did you think you would cause this much discussion?




Osskarz,
Dark Legion,
Imperial Swordsman
Dullah
Sat Aug 23, 2003 7:59 pm
#136

my personal best slice on a weapon is 38%.. im always using 96%+ wuks, non experimented knives and clamps.


40% yes, 40%+ i dont believe until i see from my own eyes.



Rudd can you confirm this is not using a skill enhancement tape ? or 100% experimented WUKs




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Knudlen
Sat Aug 23, 2003 8:35 pm
#137

Well there's two possible options here. Rudd's lying, which i don't think is what's happening, or he's found some random non-sploit fact (cause i dont think he's cheating). Honestly I wish he WAS lying, because i think holding out info from other people is even worse. Rudd, I'm appealing to your sense of comraderie here. As is evidence both on this thread and on the eclipse board, you have a reputation as *THE* man to go to for slices, and long after you tell or someone discovers the 'trick', you'll still be the #1 guy. And you also have noteriety on this board as well, within the smuggler community. So what's the point of holding out? I appreciate the fact that you put work into figuring it out, but i think by this point you've made every smuggler who visits this board suffer enough Cmon man, do the classy thing, share the info, and then bask in the gratefulness of not only all the smugglers, but all the people we slice for! Not to mention being able to say 'i told you so' to all the people who don't believe you.



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Lowca

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SaintEdwyn
Sat Aug 23, 2003 10:06 pm
#138

Sorry guys, I was in your corner until this evening. Got a 45% slice on a piece of Chitin armor for someone. The rest were all high 30s. No explanation. Those exact same tools and exact same process failed to produce any more45% for the remaining 20 armor slices that night.



Rudd was right.




Novice Target Dummy


zeroday
Sat Aug 23, 2003 10:35 pm
#139

I don't know of any Master Smuggler who hasn't gotten 45% on armor.

Solo4114
Sat Aug 23, 2003 11:24 pm
#140

I thought the issue wasn't the slicing of armor but the slicing of weapons. 45% on armor seems to be pretty well accepted in this thread, but 45% on weapons is the controversial number. For my part, having just made slice III tonight (thanks, Saintedwyn! :smileyhappy, I haven't noticed any consistency with WUKs, FANs, clamps, experimented knives or anything. It all just seems pretty random to me. Using identical equipment I can slice a CDEF that I made myself for 14% or I can end up slicing it for 29% (and that was at Slice II). It just seems random to me and I've yet to see any differences to convince me otherwise. I wish it WASN't random, though. I wish that things broke down differently for the different slice levels,though that might make climbing the slicing tree that much more difficult. I dunno. I just wish there was SOMETHING that could be done to make things less random.
Heghie
Sun Aug 24, 2003 2:09 am
#141




Dullah wrote:

my personal best slice on a weapon is 38%.. im always using 96%+ wuks, non experimented knives and clamps.


40% yes, 40%+ i dont believe until i see from my own eyes.


Rudd can you confirm this is not using a skill enhancement tape ? or 100% experimented WUKs




My thought exactly. I've sliced armor for 45% quite a few times myself. it can be done, there is no disputing that.


My best slice on weapon was 37%. Since it is an odd number, I assume the ceiling must be 40%.


But slicing weapon for 40%+? I will beleive Rudd only when it can be repeated and verified by someone else. Preferably, more then once.




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Shadowleader3
Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:14 am
#142

My only thoughts (and I've heard this before but not on the smuggler forum) Is that the weapon itself decides the slice.


Q. Has anyone tried getting a crate of identical weapons and using a powerup in one and nothing in the next one? Would making the damage of the weapon give a higher slice?


Sorry, just a random thought.




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Dullah
Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:39 am
#143

the powerup on weapons is removed once u hit on the Slice radial option menu, so dont think powerups are in the formula ^^



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Dullahh -> Mastah Niggah Smugglah CommandOah Berserkah - Bloodfin
see also Breaker -> TKA 0 2 3 2 / CH enough for a graul soon!- Chimaera

retired DAoC fanboi -The Dark Arcane- -Nolby Pride- forever
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