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Thread: Concerns about slicing.

Zekim
Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:21 pm
#131

Bravo on your point here. No one is going to pay for a lame slice. Everyone wants a good slice and we want to offer good slicing.



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gassygunslinger
Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:21 pm
#132

/sigh I'm probably gonna have to go out and buy an equipment factory, and a sh*tload of AUK's and WUK's from some artisan... Somewhere...



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CouerSanglant
Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:22 pm
#133






Eikmms wrote:





Saarek wrote:





The_Old_Ferenczy wrote:

Woah....let me see if i got all this right...


I have to loot to slice, better loots = better slices, OR buy the loots to slice...


Last time i checked...my "Smuggler" specials were not enough to engage in protracted combat alone...I say alone ...cause in a group...who's to say...you are gonna get that component.


/stop panic


Hmmm...looks like slicing costs are gonna go thru the roof...at least on Tarq...cost of anything there is "up, up, and away"


This coulkd be good, could be bad...real bad!


Time will tell.






YOU DO NOT HAVE TO LOOT TO SLICE.


You have to Loot to get the best possible slices.


Read man. READ.






And which slices do you want on your gun?






Heaven forbid you might actually have to DO something to get it.



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Saarek
Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:22 pm
#134






Eikmms wrote:





Saarek wrote:





The_Old_Ferenczy wrote:

Woah....let me see if i got all this right...


I have to loot to slice, better loots = better slices, OR buy the loots to slice...


Last time i checked...my "Smuggler" specials were not enough to engage in protracted combat alone...I say alone ...cause in a group...who's to say...you are gonna get that component.


/stop panic


Hmmm...looks like slicing costs are gonna go thru the roof...at least on Tarq...cost of anything there is "up, up, and away"


This coulkd be good, could be bad...real bad!


Time will tell.






YOU DO NOT HAVE TO LOOT TO SLICE.


You have to Loot to get the best possible slices.


Read man. READ.






And which slices do you want on your gun?






The ones I will put the effort forward to get.





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Knightcrest
Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:22 pm
#135






gassygunslinger wrote:





Knightcrest wrote:








TomoRainer wrote:



You know, I really don't want to get sidetracked on that any more.. but do you guys ever consider adding loot drops like this to space? I understand not wanting to clutter it up with irrelevant ground loot, but there are occasions when it would be appropriate.





Ya know... that would actually be fun. Have Tier 5 freighters that spawn in Kessel (neutral)or possibly (factioned) in Deep Space with contraband cargo. You would have to inspect, take out a fighter escort, disable the freighter and dock to recieve their cargo. Loot would be random on what level you attained, but not as rare for the high end stuff as say the Black Sun Helmet is.






You know, that doesnt sound like a bad idea. Since space combat is a game in itself, especialy against capital ships, it would be great if this was possible. You can easily solo anything in space, but not on the ground. As long as there were plenty of these ships, I'd be ok with this, and I might agree to these terms.





Heh.... would actually have to run a blockade if there were players active in Deep Space. In Kessel, upon uploading the cargo you would have something heavy like gunboats spawn to stop your escape. I could really live with that.



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Eikmms
Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:25 pm
#136






Killa-Kell-Krushin wrote:





Zekim wrote:





Saarek wrote:





The_Old_Ferenczy wrote:

Woah....let me see if i got all this right...


I have to loot to slice, better loots = better slices, OR buy the loots to slice...


Last time i checked...my "Smuggler" specials were not enough to engage in protracted combat alone...I say alone ...cause in a group...who's to say...you are gonna get that component.


/stop panic


Hmmm...looks like slicing costs are gonna go thru the roof...at least on Tarq...cost of anything there is "up, up, and away"


This coulkd be good, could be bad...real bad!


Time will tell.






YOU DO NOT HAVE TO LOOT TO SLICE.


You have to Loot to get the best possible slices.


Read man. READ.







And does anyone really want to offer the most mediocre slices?






Not everyone is gonna want the highest possible slice on a weapon. People that are just starting their character and grinding aren't gonna want these high priced loot comps. They're gonna want something to make their gun out perform the norm stats by a little bit so that they hopefully don't die so much. NOT everyone is lvl 80! I wouldn't want to spend God knows how much on a Uber slice for my striker pistol when in a few weeks I can equip something better anyways.




90% of the people who are using low level weapons don't even know what slicing is.....


I wonder how long the average non-smuggler goes before even learning what a slice is? I made it to Master Rifleman and never knew....


The poeple who will want slices, will want the best ones.





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Sedoo
Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:26 pm
#137






Kelko wrote:





Sedoo wrote:






GreenMarine wrote:
Also, the high end components can now be found on Krayts, etc.







No thank you. We jedi do not want them to interfere with pearl drops unless your going to upgrade the frequency of the pearl drops.






Any other Smugglers find this statement disturbing? Are we going to start seeing Jedi complain because they have to share loot drops and frequencies with another profession?


Hmmmm..







When you can slice a lgihtsaber you let me know.


When you get tired of paying 3mil+ for rare slice parts you need to make your profession compete you let me know.





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Shadwe
Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:26 pm
#138

Go back to the tools but have them use rare resources and only master smugglers can craft them.

Or the limited use schematic only usable by master smuggler.



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MyrddinSidhe
Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:28 pm
#139






Knightcrest wrote:








TomoRainer wrote:



You know, I really don't want to get sidetracked on that any more.. but do you guys ever consider adding loot drops like this to space? I understand not wanting to clutter it up with irrelevant ground loot, but there are occasions when it would be appropriate.





Ya know... that would actually be fun. Have Tier 5 freighters that spawn in Kessel (neutral)or possibly (factioned) in Deep Space with contraband cargo. You would have to inspect, take out a fighter escort, disable the freighter and dock to recieve their cargo. Loot would be random on what level you attained, but not as rare for the high end stuff as say the Black Sun Helmet is.








Great idea.


Or even add occasional freighters with escorts for each of the underworld factions (Hutt, B Sun, general pirates, etc). Random spawned space caravans traveling across the space lanes (random disable/board opportunities). Inspection would reveal Contraband or something more technical to indicate slicing loot.


We're smugglers(pirates). Let us go out and do some boarding/raiding.





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Meplorium
Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:30 pm
#140

How about dropping from the force sensitive NPCs on dantooine? They currenlyt don't drop anything besides credits it seems.



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CrimsonRanger
Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:31 pm
#141

1. Love the space idea for loot drops. Make them rare, but don't limit them do deep space. They should drop off pirate types. The higher the MOB, the better the chance.


2. I have no problem with the highest end components dropping from high level MOBs and looting from high level "dungeons", so long as the low and middle end components are cratable. And a subcomponent from a DE isn't a bad idea. Some crafters need a little love. But, I also think that smugglers should have some quests that give them a chance to get the high end components as a rare reward. They are smugglers, make it feel like there is some kind of black market that they can acess.



Heswindu
Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:32 pm
#142

Greenmarine, I think adding these components as loot drops is a big mistake. The game is already heavily loot dependant for the best stuff, why can't these new components simply be rare mission rewards for the new smuggler missions? Wouldn't that make much more sense and be a further incentive to actually smuggle stuff?





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Saarek
Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:33 pm
#143






Nisdain wrote:
If you think anyone thats gonna get a slice is going to want anything less then the best you're smoking something. Other then maybe a grinding weapon... thats the only thing thats gonna get sliced for anything then the best thats offered. People spend multimillions to get the best weapons do you honestly think these people are going to be in the least bit interested in some halfassed slice? Or that they'll just get the loot themselves and have a friend slice everything for them for nothing? You're either going to put in a location thats fairly impossible to get it or put it somewhere where everyone in their dog will be getting it (Krayts arent hard in the least) so why even bother? Give the crafters a bone, drop out the dumb loot idea.




Its the same thing for armor and weapons - you can WANT the best. Fine. But can you AFFORD the best?





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