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Thread: HoC SWG Chat log

Fernas
Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:17 pm
#118


ok, i've made some pretty worthless posts lately, but since you said you will check this in the morning, i'll try to be constructive.


A general chat is harder for us to do because it would require us to pull members from each team off of the projects they are working on so every area is covered. That is why these are always based upon a set discussion topic.


just because something is harder to do, doesn't mean it isn't worth doing. pull members from each team, and answer the hard questions. if you guys do the question picking, like you said, then pick the hard questions from the obviously angry players. quit just taking the questions that are easy to answer and fit your "format". that is not what needs to be done.


someone in your office knows who the "old timers" are here on the forums and in game. put together a list. get as many of them as you can in a chat room. take at least one person from each team in there with them. then LISTEN. you will find that simply creating movie tie-ins is NOT the way to make this game prosper and grow.


and, take a good hard look at the numbers. see how many people have bought the game overall compared to how many are playing right now. and compare credit card numbers, if you can, to try to rule out multiple accounts. you will learn that you are generating plenty of new business, but you aren't keeping your old players. simple economics will tell you that its a heck of a lot cheaper to keep current customers than to keep bringing in new ones.


put these two ideas together and you will find out the right way to move this game forward. you won't really have to worry about pulling in new players. if everyone who plays it is happy (well, not everyone, you can't please everyone) then new people will come on their own.


stop what you're doing, listen to us, and let's make this game better.

Message Edited by Fernas on 08-25-2005 11:34 PM



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tralita_tusnami
Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:46 pm
#119

*wave* hi tiggs,


wanta snuggle?





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tralita_tusnami
Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:47 pm
#120

ohhhhh passed 400 posts nice



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Guamarhea
Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:32 am
#121






WesBelden wrote:
Personally, I think the person in charge of picking the questions needs a good hard prod up the backside from a heavily shined boot; for some reason questions that were answered kept being repeated (and it's not as if there weren't a wide variety to choose from). Ah well, here's the log:


Message Edited by WesBelden on 08-25-200502:15 AM





Wes, thanks for posting this...I agree 100% withyour comments throughout this thread.


Just curious, do YOU get thisame kind of communication from them in your role as a Correspondent? We have all assumed (and understood) that at times you may be toldthings which you are not at liberty to share...it is the nature of the beast.Lately, I can't help wonderingifour assumption is wrong. Of course we trust you and know you will share and do whatever you can for us, but what about the relationship between Correspondents and SOE? Do the folks at SOE share much with you at all, or do your queries get the same treatment as everyone else's i.e. the types of answers we see in HOC or even these Forums? If so, then you don't get nearly enough credit for volunteering to be our Correspondent.


Either way, it has got to be especially frustrating for you at times...you are not just a smuggler with concerns about your own character, you also have the rest of us clamoring for info and looking for answers.


Keep up the good work Wes, and thanks again!





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VitoGenovese
Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:49 am
#122

Its always amazing to me that bureaucrats can move their mouth so much and still manage to say nothing. Its like a socially acceptable farting. There's noise, there's hot air, but nothing useful, and the whole situation just stinks.



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Rhu
Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:58 am
#123

For this chat, I have two things to say:


/salute Ragnaar


/slap LA/SOE


OWPT
Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:09 am
#124


IMHO (humble, not honest in this case), I watched the chat and saw it for what it was. Another plug at the expansion.


So this is my opinion. We all know that we are going to get it, because


a. there will be a pre-order goodie that we can receive, and even if it is crap, we will want it!


b. evereybody else is getting it so we do not want to be left out.


I hate the fact a much as everyone else, that we are not getting: cap ships/smuggler revamp/newcontent.........etc etc.


They came prepared to answer things on the expansion and nothing else, and not even that lol.


But you all know that we WILL LOVE IT! (which is why we will buy it)





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Wraith-X
Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:33 am
#125


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Rogue_5 - Great question. We like those planets too and there has been a lot of discussion about them. However, there has been a lot of interest in Mustafar coming from the Episode III movie and we also felt the Mustafar lent itself to some very exciting gameplay. The planet itself adds a completely new environment unlike anything currently in our galaxy. We believe it will be a lot of fun to explore.


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Who exactly expressed an interest in Mustafar? WHO?!!!!! Can we please see the petition submitted to a statistically significant cross section of either SWG players or at the very frickin' least of Star Wars fans that indicated there was a driving interest in Mustafar?


I AM a Jedi and the concept of a Jedi-centric expansion sickens me. What are the other classes for exactly? Jedi sidekicks?


If you are wondering why SWG is considered an utter joke in the online gaming community... things like this are the reason. Wake up and smell the cancelled accounts.




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Nezodon
Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:54 am
#126






Tiggs wrote:I have not run off into the wilderness and I am here answering questions that were posted. I answer what I know is solid bring back information to the team from all communities.






I dont think the majority of smugglers areasking for much really because weve given the dev team enough time to sort out our smuggling profession so we can actualy smuggle, but the goalposts are pushed back even further and its frustrating to see content which is jedi themed come through. Lets be honest smugglers have been very quiet wait for the devs to finish the variety of projects they have been on because we always believed in the end it will get sorted its only the last few months had the frustration reached a boiling point, i think our patients deserve rewarding even if its an answer we dont want to hear.


I understand you are in a dificult position but still most smugglers, me included, have little confidence smuggler will ever get the ability to smuggle with the track record so far.


But i suppose this doesnt just include smuggler's i think most professions are neglected and have been since launch while jedi are being worked on. I didnt start this game to become jedi i wanted to be a smuggler and i wanted to be involved in the GCW but jedi destroy the immersion factor for a lot of the star wars fans because they wernt fighting the GCW and the way jedi are added in this game doesnt come close to resemble what jedi are.


At the moment i feel like im paying to so that the people with jedi can play whilst other professions are still ignored but the sad thing is most jedi will never be happy with what you give them and regardless how much work you put into a FRS it will become exploitable by them in time so this effort on this one profession is in vain.


But again I know the customer service teams hands are tied but we really need some info on whats the future with smuggler and i really want to see the profession is going somewhere and their are long term plans to make the profession less of a slice monkey and a spice crafter.





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QuantumArtist
Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:10 am
#127







JoKen_Jash wrote:

You know what the saddest part about this whole thing is?


In one question, you or one of the devs said that we could get feedback across to you guys by telling our profession correspondents.


I know two of the correspondents as friends and both of them tell me the same two things:



  1. You never listen to them.

  2. You never tell them anything.

Being a correspondent is nothing more than an overglorified forum title with access to a forum where they can post ideas that will never come to fruition.


SWG is truly in a sad state of affairs.








Seriously! This is a BIG issue! Our corrispondants are representatives in name only! They have no sway whatsoever.... hell, I have more sway... and I find that pathetic.


Fix the current content! Fix Bio Engineer (whats up with pet stat shifting? Weak and short lasting meds?), Fix the smuggler loot drop situation and give them smuggling missions! Whats up with all the buggy and worthless droids? Squad leaders have had emptry reform promise after empty promise... at least you gave CH some love.


Also, before you make HUGE changes like you did with the recent XP nerf, you might try small, consistant and regular tweaks instead of turning the game on its ear every other month. Ask your local PlanetSide developer for tips, they have the "small tweaking" concept down pat.

Message Edited by QuantumArtist on 08-26-2005 03:17 AM



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JediGohan
Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:11 am
#128

(Rogue_5) Mustafar is now actually an infamous planet as part of the Star Wars universe. It is the key turning point in Episode III where Obi-Wan and Anakin fought their famous final battle. But questions remain, what was going on there and why were they there... Find out in Trials of Obi-Wan!

Allow me to answer


Sidious- knowing that the war was coming to an end very soon, ordered General Grievous to send the remaining members of the CIS to Mustafar.
Anakin converts to the Dark Side and after Order 66 is given new instructions by Sidious to destroy the remains of the CIS.
Anakin tells Padme where he is going.
Obi-Wan escapes his clones and finds what has happened to Anakin and talks to Padme.
Padme, not knowing what to do, goes to find Anakin on Mustafar.
Obi-Wan stows away on Padme's ship.
Anakin destroys the CIS
Padme shows up
they talk, Anakin is now completely consumed by the Dark Side
Obi-Wan shows up
Anakin gets mad
they fight
Obi-Wan defeats Anakin and runs off
Anakin endures


simple as that. Why the Devs cant stand up for themselves and tell marketing NO for once saddens me but doesnt surprise me.




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QuantumArtist
Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:39 am
#129






WesBelden wrote:





WillburWright wrote:

(SpaceRancor) "The expansion isn't purely for Jedi. The quests and events will be for all professions. But I wouldn't be surprised if you ran into one or two on Mustafar."



W.T.F-- we all know what's going to happen.












I guess it depends on how the instanced areas work.. if there are only ten of you sharing the same instance, one or two sounds about right




Blah! The servers are CRAWLING with self important Jedi. It makes me sick.



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CeboWookie
Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:53 am
#130



Ternque01 wrote:
Month 18: "Smuggling has been delayed until after event X" "Jedi profession revamp #2: Publish 18. Jedi PvP and PvE death penalty reduced."
Month 19: "Smuggling has been delayed until after event Y" "New Jedi animations. New Jedi FRS system."
Month 20: "Smuggling has been delayed until after event Z" "Jedi problem X has been addressed" "Dancers get new animations"
Month 21: "Smuggling has been delayed until after event Q" "Jedi PvP and PvE death penalty eliminated." "BH's get cool NPC mission changes!"
Month 22: "Smuggling has been delayed until after event W" "Jedi XP has been tweaked to be more inline with your wants!"
Month 23: "Smuggler revamp will never happen. It will be 'enhanced'." "New Jedi-esque expansion coming out! Lava Lightsaber Crystals (big selling point)."
Nothing I could say illustrates my point better




Really nice how you singled out all jedi changes in each pusblish and fail to see everything else that has been done in order to blame Jedi for lack of smuggler content. Btw, publish 18 Jedi revamp #2 ??? erm not....




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