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Thread: So what is the smuggler view on the ongoing GCW heated debate?

Wolfmann31
Tue May 24, 2005 11:40 am
#1

Why do I ask?


Corrs are battling this on the corr forums, without input from their professionals.


So, what is the smugglers view?


Mine is simple:


Why should I be forced to fight Jedi, to participate in the GCW, when even Jedi don't want to fight jedi?

Why should I be forced to fight jedi, in a GCW that was fought by soldiers?



And yes, I'm a smuggler. I prefer the term "Weapon Modification Expert" and "Infiltrator" tho..Due to my imperial nature.




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Saarek
Tue May 24, 2005 11:42 am
#2


LOL being a "weapon Modifications Expert" has gotten me fined a few times. I just prefer "Weapon and Armor 'Appraiser'"


That kinda throws them off a bit.


As for the jedi - Eliminate them fro the GCW all together. They didnt fight in the GCW in the movies - Darth Vader would've stuck 'em like a stuffed pig.










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Bigwheeler
Tue May 24, 2005 11:49 am
#3

Hey if anything remove the "dark" jedi from the GCW because there were only 2. That leaves only light jedi which would be a plus on my server. Ok ok not a perfect solution but maybe arguably the right one.


No but I agree something needs to be done with jedi in the GCW, over the weekend some guildmates and I wanted to do some pvping and the only place on my server to do that is in Theed. Well lets just say it wasn't much fun because all that we got to do was die at the hands of oooo say about 6-8 Dark Jedi Knights. So it was short lived.


HOTDOG
Tue May 24, 2005 11:53 am
#4

Personally I think the Jedi complaining about this are seeing it all wrong.


In the movies, Jedi were the cause of everything and they swayed actions from a higher level. It would be a good thing for Jedi to only be able to fight Jedi and those who went "Elite Forces" (with the exception of Bounty Hunters)


They should be fighting for the addition of:

A light/Dark Jedi battle system.

A padawan/Master system.

The addition of more PvE NPCs specifically for Jedi.


On that last one, "Temples" could work as bases and Jedi could set one up once he became a fully temp'ed knight. Then those who signed up in his temple would be allowed to group without "vis".

The opposite faction could destroy the Temple under the same type rules that bases have- you know, windows etc. etc.


SEE. THAT is what Jedi should be talking about.






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GanymedePharuu
Tue May 24, 2005 11:55 am
#5

here's my view.

the GCW has been reduced to two teams with a few skirmishes. when it should be two ARMIES fighting a war made up of battles!

- Jedi should not be a part of it.

- they need to address a heirarchy of the Imperial and Rebel forces. i'd like to see each PA within a faction acting as a division in that faction's army, rather than independent groups of players with independent goals.

- more structured battles. set up as content by the devs, or set up with GCW PvP missions which would create instant content.



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Wolfmann31
Tue May 24, 2005 11:59 am
#6

*chucles*


Notice how even jedi say they don't want to fight jedi?


And then they expect us to willingly come to fight them






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Nicolas_Frost
Tue May 24, 2005 2:23 pm
#7


Wolfmann31 wrote:
And yes, I'm a smuggler. I prefer the term "Weapon Modification Expert" and "Infiltrator" tho..Due to my imperial nature.




Personally, I prefer "Procurement Specialist".



Bigwheeler wrote:

Hey if anything remove the "dark" jedi from the GCW because there were only 2. That leaves only light jedi which would be a plus on my server. Ok ok not a perfect solution but maybe arguably the right one.

No but I agree something needs to be done with jedi in the GCW, over the weekend some guildmates and I wanted to do some pvping and the only place on my server to do that is in Theed. Well lets just say it wasn't much fun because all that we got to do was die at the hands of oooo say about 6-8 Dark Jedi Knights. So it was short lived.






Actually, there were only two Sith at the time. Not all Dark Jedi are Sith.

Anyway, the Devs really need to bring some very high level Jedi-Hunting NPCs into play(Vader, Aura Sing, et cetera), make them unkillable. The only way to survive these NPCs would be to escape(if the player can manage). These Jedi-Hunters only come for Jedi who have reached an extremely high level of visibility, and bring perma-death to thier prey. The Jedi now has to start back over from Padawan.



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djlowballer
Tue May 24, 2005 2:28 pm
#8

I liked the idea with the elite level of pvp so long as elite cannot heal spec forces.

As for the PA in the faction: I really would like to see the factions set up like i remember back in ultima, where the best players ont he server could become leaders and send messages to everyone. that way each PA is a division, and their outstanding memeber would be involved with the higher level of command
yimaz
Tue May 24, 2005 2:35 pm
#9






I guess Im a hard liner on this:



1. Jedi's have alts and normal players do not, in short stop using your alt(the jedi's who do) to support your jedi and start using him/her in the GCW.


2. With that said the jedi need to be at war with the Sith, granted the Sith is not alive and well in this time line but Jedi's are also not alive and well. Two new factions Sith and Jedi wouldfight for the chance to reestablish their repective orders.


Something like this:


*Roll Star Wars opening scroll*










STAR WARS GALAXIES

It is a Dark Time for the Jedi Order


With the fall of the Jedi counsel and 30 years of hiding some of the few remaining Jedi lost and burning with hatred for the Empire have turned to the old order of Sith. Light Jedi fearing these new Sith will gain enough power to truly ruleoverevery living creatureseek out and fight themin every corner of the galaxy. These brave few Jedihope to stop the birth of a new Sith orderbefore they too are as powerful as Darth Sideousand Darth Vader.














Message Edited by yimaz on 05-24-2005 05:54 PM



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VitoGenovese
Tue May 24, 2005 2:36 pm
#10

I'm on Bria, what is this "GCW" thing of which you speak? Seriously the only experience I have with PvP is a group of arsehats killing me at a starport as I spawn in way back when you could still get ganked. The other time was a guy ganking me in front of the recruiter as I tried to get undeclared after the annoying Imp troops in Mos Es overted me. Needless to say my impression of PvP is lower than a snake turd in a wagon rut. I do not participate in, nor do I like pvp since it is almost universally this months uber template exploiters vs people who are just trying to get home. Blah.



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Ashet
Tue May 24, 2005 2:40 pm
#11

It all depends on what sort of game you want. It is very true to the movies to have Jedi just decimate everything, but it is very not fun to be decimated by a Jedi repeatedly.

After a while, you stop showing up. That is where the GCW is today. If you want everyone to show up, something has to be done about the Jedi.

Every GCW battle (10-12 of them) I have ever participated in I have been killed by Jedi. I no longer participate.

I do not like the idea of permadeath. It may take you two years to get Jedi - it is a lot of work if you do not fight club it. And then to lose it all in one battle, you have one less player in the game, and that is not good for the game.
nerfherder321
Tue May 24, 2005 2:45 pm
#12

personally i feel SF should be like the vis system


kill stormies while combant get little vis


kill stormeis while combatant with other watching of other faction? more vis


once SF you kill stormies more vis


enough vis you go elite or elite TEF


fixes the combatant problem i feel... but a vis system woudl be cool for that... and smugglers can fix the vis problem and etc






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gojimbogo
Tue May 24, 2005 2:47 pm
#13



Ashet wrote:
It all depends on what sort of game you want. It is very true to the movies to have Jedi just decimate everything, but it is very not fun to be decimated by a Jedi repeatedly.

After a while, you stop showing up. That is where the GCW is today. If you want everyone to show up, something has to be done about the Jedi.

Every GCW battle (10-12 of them) I have ever participated in I have been killed by Jedi. I no longer participate.

I do not like the idea of permadeath. It may take you two years to get Jedi - it is a lot of work if you do not fight club it. And then to lose it all in one battle, you have one less player in the game, and that is not good for the game.




its also true to the movies for there to be NO JEDI.



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