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Thread: one things that really bothers me

fishbrains
Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:46 pm
#1

people trying to get smuggler love pre-emptively nerfed

1) Jedi go bat$hit when glitterstim is talked about around publish 9
Result: No glitterstim

2) CU forums: Large spread dissention about possible 'too much content for smuggler' if smuggler becaome viable in combat as well as the recipient of the IC smuggler missions.
Result: unknown, but look for more of this is and when this change comes closer

3) Weapon's malfunctioning with the new slicing system is hotly debated among the gaming populace.
Result: changed before implementation


Anyone seeing a pattern?



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Ternque01
Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:50 pm
#2

Glitterstim was never put in because they never put in smuggling missions.


I don't think that players complained during the CU about smuggler content.


I hear they outted weapon breakage because of a bug... I'd like to see it put back in the game as soon as this is fixed






Axob Freelight
The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
EnderUK
Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:53 pm
#3

we will never see a real smuggler system in this game I'm telling you. Everytime real risk comes in for illegal goods it falls throug/short

I fear the smuggler intallation by parts will be nothing more than the dilivery missions we can currently obtain from the normal mission terminals.


You notice that msot people don't want risk vs reward. You'll notice this is promanant in the Jedi profession. Look what happened when jedi cried for the risk to be removed, huge surge of new jedi, crippling as a aphla class, they get nerfed and then ask why that happened.


You cannot have a true contraband system without risk, the weapon jamming was a step in the right direction, hopefuly when fixed they'll bring it back. I can but hope.


/salute true smugglers that want risk vs reward.



I too use to have a fancy sig, then it got pwned - Kenney Ender
Moricky
Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:59 pm
#4

jamming has gone, but does the customisation still have a condition? when it reaches 0 will they need to come back for another? i did like the concept of repeat servace, it seemed clever.



A[Retard]Arikaan [Retired]A

maxtheusher
Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:12 pm
#5

I've voiced my concerns over both our "fairness" amongst combat profs, as well as the IC smuggling thread...

IMO it is unfair for us to have approx. the same combat capability as Pistoleer while ALSO having a major content system tied to the profession.

According to ArthurDent, that is why the Devs explained at the FF why we weren't getting a specific Jedi, or DE style Revamp Publish. They apparently feel that as we're now a combat prof, the other stuff isn't as important.

I REALLY think we're going to get hosed myself. Hate to be pessimistic, but it seems to blend seamlessly with the pragmatic.



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EnderUK
Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:19 pm
#6






maxtheusher wrote:
I've voiced my concerns over both our "fairness" amongst combat profs, as well as the IC smuggling thread...

IMO it is unfair for us to have approx. the same combat capability as Pistoleer while ALSO having a major content system tied to the profession.

According to ArthurDent, that is why the Devs explained at the FF why we weren't getting a specific Jedi, or DE style Revamp Publish. They apparently feel that as we're now a combat prof, the other stuff isn't as important.

I REALLY think we're going to get hosed myself. Hate to be pessimistic, but it seems to blend seamlessly with the pragmatic.




if that's the case then it's probably bye bye smuggler for me



I too use to have a fancy sig, then it got pwned - Kenney Ender
Moricky
Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:20 pm
#7






maxtheusher wrote:
I've voiced my concerns over both our "fairness" amongst combat profs, as well as the IC smuggling thread...

IMO it is unfair for us to have approx. the same combat capability as Pistoleer while ALSO having a major content system tied to the profession.

According to ArthurDent, that is why the Devs explained at the FF why we weren't getting a specific Jedi, or DE style Revamp Publish. They apparently feel that as we're now a combat prof, the other stuff isn't as important.

I REALLY think we're going to get hosed myself. Hate to be pessimistic, but it seems to blend seamlessly with the pragmatic.





can anyone say 'Bounty Hunter Terminal' ?



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maxtheusher
Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:40 pm
#8



Moricky wrote:


maxtheusher wrote:
I've voiced my concerns over both our "fairness" amongst combat profs, as well as the IC smuggling thread...

IMO it is unfair for us to have approx. the same combat capability as Pistoleer while ALSO having a major content system tied to the profession.

According to ArthurDent, that is why the Devs explained at the FF why we weren't getting a specific Jedi, or DE style Revamp Publish. They apparently feel that as we're now a combat prof, the other stuff isn't as important.

I REALLY think we're going to get hosed myself. Hate to be pessimistic, but it seems to blend seamlessly with the pragmatic.


can anyone say 'Bounty Hunter Terminal' ?





Well, dunno if you remember, but BH was originally the most SP intensive of professions, and thus different than pistoleer, rifleman, pikeman, etc.

If you want Smuggling to be like the BH terms... ick.



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Ternque01
Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:55 pm
#9

I think he's implying that since BH's get a fairly developed content system, that smugglers deserve the same.


Smuggler is the most iconic Star Wars profession next to Jedi. You then have Pilot, then BH, Pistoleer, etc...


It NEEDS content.


If the devs do skimp out, it is because they refuse to put in the time. F*ck, they are probably taking development time away from smuggler and putting it into fixing the Jedi problem.... What a f*cked up predicament this game is in.






Axob Freelight
The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
HOTDOG
Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:06 pm
#10

I see his point. The fact that the BHs have their own meta game- regardless of how many points it took to get it- justifies us smuggling. It could have been argued before as a hybrid thing but frankly I'm not interested in any of that.


A smuggling profession should smuggle first and foremost. I'm really not givin' a s**t about how fair it is. You can pick up smuggler any day of the week (and most likely add a great deal to your other chosen profession).


I don't complain about Jedi being uber- (just all over the place)- I don't get pissed about people playing the crafting meta game (and I did have a lot of fun doing that by the way- swgcraft.com was the BOMB) and they shouldn't get upset about Smugglers being able to smuggle.


All these people looking at everyone else's plate and complaining really ruin it for themselves in the long run. It makes it so no one can get anything but nerfed to make the other poor b4stards around them happy.








TEVIN STARGUNNER | WASODO T'GADIE

Rogue | Desperado | Demolitionist Short | Dark | Handsome

Master Smuggler | Master Bounty Hunter | Commando 0400 | Rebel Capt. Smuggler | Teras Kasi Artist | Unaffiliated
XStarbracer
Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:46 pm
#11

Forced Smuggler Bounties and breakage in slicing has no business in smuggler,if you want major risk your welcome to /cancel and go play linage or something.



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- I support NO DECAY.It should be run like EQ . No 20k price cap on the bazar and everyone can craft. Its has worked for 7 years on everquest and there is no decay plenty of money and no crazy prices.

Decay is only good for crafteres and bad for everyone else.
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HOTDOG
Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:49 pm
#12






XStarbracer wrote:
Forced Smuggler Bounties and breakage in slicing has no business in smuggler,if you want major risk your welcome to /cancel and go play linage or something.






Dude. What is your deal, tonight?


Who are you to tell me what not to play? When exactly did you drum up the design documents for smuggler and how many of my checks for SWG have you cashed?



...sheeeeesh.








TEVIN STARGUNNER | WASODO T'GADIE

Rogue | Desperado | Demolitionist Short | Dark | Handsome

Master Smuggler | Master Bounty Hunter | Commando 0400 | Rebel Capt. Smuggler | Teras Kasi Artist | Unaffiliated
XStarbracer
Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:01 pm
#13

im not telling anyone how to play but its YOU peopel who are, Forcing people into pvp with smuggler bounties and forcing people to come back to you so much because of breakage forces your playstyle onto others.



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- I support NO DECAY.It should be run like EQ . No 20k price cap on the bazar and everyone can craft. Its has worked for 7 years on everquest and there is no decay plenty of money and no crazy prices.

Decay is only good for crafteres and bad for everyone else.
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