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Thread: Smuggler without the Smuggler profession

Acip
Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:20 pm
#1

I read a lot of threads here about peeps begging to actually be able to smuggle. Well, I admit, that would be very cool if the devs would add that content however, you can smuggle now if you want to.


My toon is a former slave with a lot of criminal contacts. She has managed to find black markets (cheap a$$ vendors) for many things to the point that I receive tons of emails every day from peeps looking for stuff, which pays the bills. I rp most of my sales and have had a few imp guilds after me for rping that some of my stuff was stolen from imperial storage facilities.


I have been a smuggler for around 7 months now, without ever having the swg smuggler profession. Since the CU, I reactivated my old second acct and now have that toon as smug/artisian so I can get involved in the back room slicing as well. Soon I will be crafting bikes which, you guessed it, I will RP as being stolen.


Is the smug prof broken? yes it is, but we can still smuggle if we are creative enough.



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Thomen
Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:39 pm
#2

Well.. yes if we are creative enough..and find enough Peoples to support our RP quest for RP smuggling.
For myself, i just Roleplay when i feel like it. Like weekly RP Events and such. No matter what, it would be way cooler to be Smuggler if they give us smuggling content so that every Smuggler can be a Smuggler and not just pretend to be one. Its sad enough that an Imp without even having Novice Smuggler can smuggle better as a Master Smuggler.

I dont pay and play this game to be the Slice Monkeyfor WS or AS or anyone else.



Lawho Iwon
Master Smuggler
Smugglers Alliance Ace

Coalition of the Lost Smugglers
Rirbret
Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:41 pm
#3




smuggler without the "Smuggler" profession




Fixed.


I love to roleplay smuggling. I often get into one-sided conversations with planetary police. The sad thing is though, we are, by game design, just thugs.The profession is no more worthy of the 'Smuggler' title than a commando. We can make just the stuff to "smuggle" andshoot people in the crotch when we are "smuggling".


While I agree, we can smuggle, we are no more Smugglers than anyone else.


Most, if not all, people on this board know we can set up 'smuggling' runs and roleplaying events, but we just want to have something that letsthis set of boxesworthy of the'Smuggler' name.


I must thank you for posting this, however. I think, while we know this, we sometimes forget.


That said, pie?



Rirbret Sitioinie
(Scylla)- Trandoshan Imperial Master Smuggler, Master Carbineer, Master Marksman, Double-crossing, no-good swindler.

"Kid, I've flown from one side of the galaxy to the other and I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe that there's one all powerful force that controls everything.
There's no mystical energy field that controls my destiny."

AngusMacGregor
Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:45 pm
#4

By that same token, we can all be Darth Vader if we click our heels three times, breathe heavily, and tell people that we're their father.



Nope... just not the same. But thanks for trying.






"C O L O N E L A N G U S" M A C G R E G O R
DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION
I am Jack's ignored profession.
My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.
Thomen
Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:54 pm
#5






AngusMacGregor wrote:

By that same token, we can all be Darth Vader if we click our heels three times, breathe heavily, and tell people that we're their father.



Nope... just not the same. But thanks for trying.








When we try telling someone that we are their fathers we might consider to do it while or after we used alot of Spice, aka Pie and Beer. This way atleast some might agree with us


*pats on the back* Suuure daddy.. are you sure, you dont want another Pint, Daddy?
*everyone is watching us praticing our tumbling skills on the way home*





Lawho Iwon
Master Smuggler
Smugglers Alliance Ace

Coalition of the Lost Smugglers
MaxSteele
Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:56 pm
#6



Acip wrote:
I read a lot of threads here about peeps begging to actually be able to smuggle. Well, I admit, that would be very cool if the devs would add that content however, you can smuggle now if you want to.
My toon is a former slave with a lot of criminal contacts. She has managed to find black markets (cheap a$$ vendors) for many things to the point that I receive tons of emails every day from peeps looking for stuff, which pays the bills. I rp most of my sales and have had a few imp guilds after me for rping that some of my stuff was stolen from imperial storage facilities.
I have been a smuggler for around 7 months now, without ever having the swg smuggler profession. Since the CU, I reactivated my old second acct and now have that toon as smug/artisian so I can get involved in the back room slicing as well. Soon I will be crafting bikes which, you guessed it, I will RP as being stolen.
Is the smug prof broken? yes it is, but we can still smuggle if we are creative enough.






How DARE you draw attention to the letters "RPG" in the acronym "MMORPG" that describes what this game is? Heh...



Evarn Terallis - Master Smuggler on Kettemoor

There are missions in which you "deliver an item while hostiles attack you" in every profession. I still don't consider [Smuggler's Alliance] pilots to be Smugglers, nor 'Smuggling' - at least not any more than Rebel Pilots or Imperial Pilots might sometimes "smuggle", with a lower-case s - JFreeman - 10/6/04
AngusMacGregor
Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:01 pm
#7






MaxSteele wrote:

How DARE you draw attention to the letters "RPG" in the acronym "MMORPG" that describes what this game is? Heh...



While we're at it... how DARE anyone expect to get features in a game that they pay for without have to resort to "make believe".




"C O L O N E L A N G U S" M A C G R E G O R
DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION
I am Jack's ignored profession.
My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.
MaxSteele
Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:10 pm
#8


AngusMacGregor wrote:


MaxSteele wrote:

How DARE you draw attention to the letters "RPG" in the acronym "MMORPG" that describes what this game is? Heh...

While we're at it... how DARE anyone expect to get features in a game that they pay for without have to resort to "make believe".





Show me where they said a feature of playing Star Wars Galaxies was you got to smuggle....

And, are you serious? "make believe"? What do you think you're playing here? It's *all* make believe.

Message Edited by MaxSteele on 06-22-2005 03:10 PM



Evarn Terallis - Master Smuggler on Kettemoor

There are missions in which you "deliver an item while hostiles attack you" in every profession. I still don't consider [Smuggler's Alliance] pilots to be Smugglers, nor 'Smuggling' - at least not any more than Rebel Pilots or Imperial Pilots might sometimes "smuggle", with a lower-case s - JFreeman - 10/6/04
Thomen
Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:14 pm
#9






MaxSteele wrote:




AngusMacGregor wrote:






MaxSteele wrote:

How DARE you draw attention to the letters "RPG" in the acronym "MMORPG" that describes what this game is? Heh...



While we're at it... how DARE anyone expect to get features in a game that they pay for without have to resort to "make believe".







Show me where they said a feature of playing Star Wars Galaxies was you got to smuggle....

And, are you serious? "make believe"? What do you think you're playing here? It's *all* make believe.

Message Edited by MaxSteele on 06-22-2005 03:10 PM




Word association... says all. What does the word Smuggler mean?
If any other profession in this game has actual content and meaning like their profession name, why cantwe just have the same?



Lawho Iwon
Master Smuggler
Smugglers Alliance Ace

Coalition of the Lost Smugglers
AngusMacGregor
Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:18 pm
#10







MaxSteele wrote:

Show me where they said a feature of playing Star Wars Galaxies was you got to smuggle.... Well, I'd dig up the "In Concept" thread if it didn't vanish,and all of GM's old posts about the promised Smuggler content, numerous Dev posts about how they are going to add it to the game... you can't tell me you haven't seen any of it. We've known it's coming. If it wasn't, not many of us Smugs would be around.

And, are you serious? "make believe"? What do you think you're playing here? It's *all* make believe. I'm playing a game that I can see and work with. I'm not pretending that there is something there that isn't. Stop being so damned literal, it makes you look stupid.






Message Edited by AngusMacGregor on 06-22-200506:19 PM

Message Edited by AngusMacGregor on 06-22-2005 06:19 PM




"C O L O N E L A N G U S" M A C G R E G O R
DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION
I am Jack's ignored profession.
My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.
Beyrr
Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:21 pm
#11






AngusMacGregor wrote:

By that same token, we can all be Darth Vader if we click our heels three times, breathe heavily, and tell people that we're their father.



Nope... just not the same. But thanks for trying.







Do we tell people that we are their father, or the more 'smuggler' way, "Who's your Daddy?"



Beyrr Epho - Wanderhome - MIA due to promotion to management in RL
Behrbacca - Wanderhome - See above
MaxSteele
Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:33 pm
#12



AngusMacGregor wrote:


MaxSteele wrote:
Show me where they said a feature of playing Star Wars Galaxies was you got to smuggle.... Well, I'd dig up the "In Concept" thread if it didn't vanish,and all of GM's old posts about the promised Smuggler content, numerous Dev posts about how they are going to add it to the game... you can't tell me you haven't seen any of it. We've known it's coming. If it wasn't, not many of us Smugs would be around.

And, are you serious? "make believe"? What do you think you're playing here? It's *all* make believe. I'm playing a game that I can see and work with. I'm not pretending that there is something there that isn't. Stop being so damned literal, it makes you look stupid.



Message Edited by AngusMacGregor on 06-22-200506:19 PM

Message Edited by AngusMacGregor on 06-22-2005 06:19 PM





Oh wow, you're resorting to insults so early in this discussion?

As for the In Concept documents, and any developer posts... Those aren't stated features of this game. If you're relying on those as what the game *is*, then you're mistaken. You get what is in the game now, and anything that is 'talked about' or 'promised' doesn't exist until it's in the game. If it's not good enough, you have the option of leaving. I did it for 9 months. It might be a drop in the bucket, but that was $135 of my money that SOE didn't get because I didn't like the state the game was in.

And if I find I don't like the Combat Upgrade, or the new Smuggler changes, I'll do it again. That, playing on the Test Center when these changes are going in, and submitting bug / suggestion reports are the only control any of us have. Petitions, complaining, and other futile attempts to get a developer's attention and try to get something changed or added does nothing more than make the one doing those actions frustrated. They accomplish nothing.

On the "pretending that there is something there that isn't" concept.... Perhaps you're taking the game too literal yourself if everything you want your character to do has to have a 'literal' in-game system with pre-programmed rules. It's one thing to play 'make-believe', it's another thing entirely to get others involved in it with you. I've done it, and it's led to some of the best game time I've spent in SWG.



Evarn Terallis - Master Smuggler on Kettemoor

There are missions in which you "deliver an item while hostiles attack you" in every profession. I still don't consider [Smuggler's Alliance] pilots to be Smugglers, nor 'Smuggling' - at least not any more than Rebel Pilots or Imperial Pilots might sometimes "smuggle", with a lower-case s - JFreeman - 10/6/04
SwenLaransa
Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:34 pm
#13



MaxSteele wrote:


Acip wrote:
I read a lot of threads here about peeps begging to actually be able to smuggle. Well, I admit, that would be very cool if the devs would add that content however, you can smuggle now if you want to.
My toon is a former slave with a lot of criminal contacts. She has managed to find black markets (cheap a$$ vendors) for many things to the point that I receive tons of emails every day from peeps looking for stuff, which pays the bills. I rp most of my sales and have had a few imp guilds after me for rping that some of my stuff was stolen from imperial storage facilities.
I have been a smuggler for around 7 months now, without ever having the swg smuggler profession. Since the CU, I reactivated my old second acct and now have that toon as smug/artisian so I can get involved in the back room slicing as well. Soon I will be crafting bikes which, you guessed it, I will RP as being stolen.
Is the smug prof broken? yes it is, but we can still smuggle if we are creative enough.






How DARE you draw attention to the letters "RPG" in the acronym "MMORPG" that describes what this game is? Heh...




We already have Really Powerful Guns. Like the T21 or rocket launcher. I don't know what you're talking about.




Swen Laransa
Fish of the Force & Smuggler at Heart

Anoron
Master Shipwright & Smuggler
Ships and Jedi Resources at -387 2901 Dantooine

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