Smuggler Archive

I was told in game that master smugglers are getting a huge slicing bonus. Why don't they also get a HUGE spice experimentation bonus or something else? Why would they just pick slicing? This will also make all the other slicing 4 smugglers who don't wanna become masters (because of point limit) lose their authority and people will be seeking out Masters instead of "Slicers." Is this true? or it is just a pile of BS.

Right now becoming a Master Smuggler overcomes the Slicing4 bug. And, In this Master Smuggler's opinion, I think being MS SHOULD get a major slicing/spice advantage over people who are just Fence/Slicer. It just makes sense, Master Weaponsmiths can make better weapons than just gunsmiths, the same should apply here.

Yea, but it isnt like master weaponsmiths can make 25% better weapons, its a small margin, not a HUGE one.

they arent getting a huge bonus nor any bonus at all

just master smugglers arent affected by the bug @ slicing lvl 4

so advanced WEAPON slicing is working for them.

also master weaponsmiths can make T21's which are far better then Firearms 4 weapons such as spraystick, beam rifle & laser rifle

just a single example of a master being better at crafting, look @ every other crafting profession

the masters are far superior to ppl who have 1 tree at tier 4.

I understand, but the sole reason for being a weaponsmith is to become master, MANY people are doing smuggler as a side profession because they don't have enough points to hit master at that.

So they aren't as Smuggler as real Smugglers, are they? I kinda like the fact that slicing 4 gets fixed with master smuggler, makes you want to take master smuggler for some other reason than the 25% fac perk. If it wasn't like that, then who in their right mind would become master?

Why should people take "side professions" and be just as good as someone who is the profession?

Personally, I believe that at each level, you should be able to perform better than previously. Currently, I have people that insist they want a master slicer. Many don't understand, or care to understand, the current state of slice IV. When they insist, I try to send them to a master smuggler so they can still get a greater percentage possibility. If they are rude, I'll send them to a slicer at IV to get their 14% increase.

Unfortunately, because of the way the class behaves, I will most likely not train at slice IV until I have the other 3 trees mastered. Or even worse, train at IV, make a bunch of clamps, and then surrender it. Only after I have the other 3 trees masteredwillI shell out the credits to get Underworld IV, Slice IV, and Master at the same time. I'm saving Underworld for last because I'm neutral.

It would be nice to have a slicer title but it is not worth the cost of a poor quality slice. One good thing, it has kept me from grinding on the slicing line and allowed me to take my time and have a little fun with it.

That's what most people are doing. Also, you could make a 1k clamp schematic (yes it's possible, just add a 0 to the 100) and hand that to someone with a factory. Soon as I was able to slice weapons, I made friends with a weaponsmith. Soooo much easier with crates of 25 of the suckers. Also did crates with the PLKs, and then crates with WUKs. Organization rules.

well if they make it so slicing 4 is just as good as master smuggler, I'll be happy and get back the 43 pts I can spend on something else. Fix slicing 4, but make master better than it. Master of every class is better than a non master, smuggler should be no different.

It's probably inverted or something. Slicing 4 should be like slicing 2, and vice versa. Then leave master where it is.

I agree , master smuggler gets the egde, it should be that way.....but.....That is not the case in the game as far as the devs see it. Master smuggler got nothing more then some FPdiscount. But fix slicing 4 and put an additive to master smuggler, that they slice better .

Yup, I am waiting for them to spice things up for the masters.... but in the mean time I am still having bit of fun here and there....

The Slicing IV bug is probably designed to be that way (for now). Think about it for a second. 1st month of release with a player driven economy, combine that with a skill tree which improves upon an already 'efficient' weapon. With players trying to build a skill like slicing, where generally speaking the cost of WUK's, FAN's and PLK's are not cheap, the grinding is just not going to be there for that many players. So you make a skill at lvl 2 that adds a nice bonus to Damage or Speed of the weapon, but then redupe the skill at level IV which some people complain about actually decreasing the returns.

Granted, most see this as a bug; however, it's a shrewd circumstance that affects the game on two levels. The first level is the Player: if Slicing IV grants higher returns,Slicers will be the only ones who get business doing slicing; however, they don't need the experience. So the experience is wasted. 25,000 Slicing Experience is HARD to get just slicing dropped weapons and/or the occasional person who doesn't care about the diminished returns.

Secondly the economy is affected. The Aspiring Slicer doesn't have the funds necessary to support the weaponsmith for his WUK's, therefore he can't get them, unless he totally LOVES doing missions. So the only person making money is the Slicer, the one who has already paid his dues.

I kept my Slicing IV untrained until I got all my other trees completed. This has been in since Beta and it was posted on the Smuggler's Den, Allakhazam, and SWG.net, so it is documented.

What this keeps from happening is someone (who doesn't plan to go the Full Smuggler tree) being able to get 100% 15-30% slices on weapons without going to Master Smuggler. Now, you ask, who would want to do such a thing? MASTER WEAPONSMITHS would DIE for this ability. So it's checks and balances thing. Don't petition them to change this or getting Master Smuggler won't be that much different than having a Slicer; aside from the 25% Faction Perk reduction. We gotta have some reward that isn't PvP (since it's a bigger issue than anything else in the game now, but that's another post for another time)