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Thread: My Observations of the Smuggler Community

Polarbear868
Tue Nov 23, 2004 8:54 pm
#1

I am new the smuggler profession, and I am kind of new to the smuggler forums. I have noticed a definate difference in the tone of this forum opposed to the tone in the other forums. The people here are upset (for a good reason) and it seems (from the tone of the forums and words you all choose) that you all feel alienated from the rest of the community. I'd like to say that you all have the right to feel that way, because you ARE alienated from the community by the people who run this game. While they spend weeks working on tweaking other professions, you all get ignored and tossed aside. They pretend that the smuggler problem doesn't exist, and that you are all very happy with the profession the way it is. Or once in a while they will acknoledge the problem, then do nothing. I would like to commend any of you who have stuck with the smuggler profession, and even though I am not master yet, I will continue to work my way to master, and stick with it. If it's true that every little complaining voice counts than one more smuggler could help just that much.

Afterthought: What the heck is going on in this game? The developers are 100% ignorning this problem, doing 0% of any work on it they promised. Its as if instead of fixing the profession, they just want it to be so bad that everyone drops it so they can just eliminate it from the game altogether without angering anyone. And seriously guys, most people who arent smugglers dont really care. I didn't even know the smuggler profession was so messed up until I became one and started researching it. I mean, I just don't understand. What the heck developers, you are doing nothing, NOTHING about this issue.

Message Edited by Polarbear868 on 11-23-2004 11:01 PM



Swazi Yldirri - Gorath - Clan Moor Sgt.
Master Smuggler-Master Pistoleer-Rebel Alliance Ace Pilot
SmugglinZane
Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:04 pm
#2






Polarbear868 wrote:
I am new the smuggler profession, and I am kind of new to the smuggler forums. I have noticed a definate difference in the tone of this forum opposed to the tone in the other forums. The people here are upset (for a good reason) and it seems (from the tone of the forums and words you all choose) that you all feel alienated from the rest of the community. I'd like to say that you all have the right to feel that way, because you ARE alienated from the community by the people who run this game. While they spend weeks working on tweaking other professions, you all get ignored and tossed aside. They pretend that the smuggler problem doesn't exist, and that you are all very happy with the profession the way it is. Or once in a while they will acknoledge the problem, then do nothing. I would like to commend any of you who have stuck with the smuggler profession, and even though I am not master yet, I will continue to work my way to master, and stick with it. If it's true that every little complaining voice counts than one more smuggler could help just that much.

Afterthought: What the heck is going on in this game? The developers are 100% ignorning this problem, doing 0% of any work on it they promised. Its as if instead of fixing the profession, they just want it to be so bad that everyone drops it so they can just eliminate it from the game altogether without angering anyone. And seriously guys, most people who arent smugglers dont really care. I didn't even know the smuggler profession was so messed up until I became one and started researching it. I mean, I just don't understand. What the heck developers, you are doing nothing, NOTHING about this issue.

Message Edited by Polarbear868 on 11-23-2004 11:01 PM






Didn't take long for you to catch the "what the hell are they thinking" wave.


I had to laugh at how drasticly the tone changed from paragraph one to paragraph two... you are truly working your way up the smuggler profession.


Zane




"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114
Datink_Nieleft
Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:09 am
#3

Welcome to the Twilight Zone.


Episode 132: "The Profession that never was"



GostNDajtink
Original Smuggler
My bowels are loose and I'm a little gamey Want some toast?


Saabotage
Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:32 am
#4






Polarbear868 wrote:
I am new the smuggler profession, and I am kind of new to the smuggler forums. I have noticed a definate difference in the tone of this forum opposed to the tone in the other forums. The people here are upset (for a good reason) and it seems (from the tone of the forums and words you all choose) that you all feel alienated from the rest of the community. I'd like to say that you all have the right to feel that way, because you ARE alienated from the community by the people who run this game. While they spend weeks working on tweaking other professions, you all get ignored and tossed aside. They pretend that the smuggler problem doesn't exist, and that you are all very happy with the profession the way it is. Or once in a while they will acknoledge the problem, then do nothing. I would like to commend any of you who have stuck with the smuggler profession, and even though I am not master yet, I will continue to work my way to master, and stick with it. If it's true that every little complaining voice counts than one more smuggler could help just that much.

Afterthought: What the heck is going on in this game? The developers are 100% ignorning this problem, doing 0% of any work on it they promised. Its as if instead of fixing the profession, they just want it to be so bad that everyone drops it so they can just eliminate it from the game altogether without angering anyone. And seriously guys, most people who arent smugglers dont really care. I didn't even know the smuggler profession was so messed up until I became one and started researching it. I mean, I just don't understand. What the heck developers, you are doing nothing, NOTHING about this issue.

Message Edited by Polarbear868 on 11-23-2004 11:01 PM






AAARRrRRHHhhHH!!!


Welcome aboard mate!!!


One rule on this ship, ye scourvey dog!


If the ship goes down, SO DO YOU!!!!


ARRhhhHHh!!!!




br>I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much Liberty then to those attending too small a degree of it. Thomas Jefferson 1791
Smugglie = Smuggler + Lie
Liberty Or Death
Spec-Ops
Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:59 am
#5

damn, he masterd the cynic proffesion in record time
/hi5
welcome aboard
.. arr



DoltanReibisch
MasterSmuggler
CaptainoftheRogueEnforcer
Gorath
"DestroyallthatisEvil,soallthatisGoodmayflourish"
Shrendyc
Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:02 am
#6

Well to be fair, master cynic is a pre-requisite now for smuggler.


Frankly, I'm going for the master misanthrope badge. its the elite of the cynic line.



"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius --- and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. "
-Flufball-
Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:16 am
#7


Shrendyc wrote:
Well to be fair, master cynic is a pre-requisite now for smuggler.
Frankly, I'm going for the master misanthrope badge. its the elite of the cynic line.





I was always under the impression that cynic was a requirement from the start, not just now.

It makes me wonder if this profession was designed specificaly to drag all the people of this mindset from the other professions, into a one single profession which they could easily ignore. Still, if thats the case, it does create a great atmosphere around here.
Shrendyc
Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:27 am
#8






-Flufball- wrote:




Shrendyc wrote:

Well to be fair, master cynic is a pre-requisite now for smuggler.


Frankly, I'm going for the master misanthrope badge. its the elite of the cynic line.







I was always under the impression that cynic was a requirement from the start, not just now.

It makes me wonder if this profession was designed specificaly to drag all the people of this mindset from the other professions, into a one single profession which they could easily ignore. Still, if thats the case, it does create a great atmosphere around here.





Nah - at first you needed to only be 0040 in cynic (trusting fool) but they upped the cynic point cost.



"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius --- and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. "
Qojan
Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:44 am
#9

Yep yu'll fit in here. Welcome abord



Main Qojan-Master Carbiner, Master CH, Master Cynic, Explorer, Sabacc player, Glowing Fool and Reluctent Pilot, Retired Smuggler
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side."
Alt Bohica-Master Artisan/Master Talior Glowie Clothing and Spice vendor 759 -5519 just steps from the shuttleport in Athens Smuggler vendor in Woofie's Warez and Watering Hole Athens, Corellia. 661 -5246
We Want to SMUGGLE!!
yimaz
Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:52 am
#10

Welcome to the island of the misfit profession.



Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

JTGAlpha
Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:46 pm
#11

Yeah, the upside is it makes us FEEL like the scum of the universe, which we are.


Welcome to the profession!



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Founders of Agrilatia in the Agrilat Swamps Of Corellia (Intrepid).
Taking Scum and Villainy to a new Level to Serve YOU.
Remember: SCUM does it dirty
Another Horseman of the Smuggling Apocolypse

Polarbear868
Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:33 am
#12

I mean, I can't see why the developers are ignoring smugglers. Smugglers do plenty to complain and get their attention, and the profession certainly deserve a fix since it hasn't been touched at all. It's not like they are doing fixes in alphabetical order and we are last (Teras Kasi, Weaponsmith, Tailor, Swordsman, and Squad leader are below us). Why do they play favorites?



Swazi Yldirri - Gorath - Clan Moor Sgt.
Master Smuggler-Master Pistoleer-Rebel Alliance Ace Pilot
JTGAlpha
Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:36 am
#13

Honestly? Because they're REALLY not sure what to do about us. They muffed us at launch because they didn't know what to do with us, so they gave us some half-hearted quick ideas and chucked us out the door. Ever since then I believe they're so scared of the problem of how to do us in a way that is fun and balanced, as well as fearing our discontent, because they've SEEN us on a tirade and they don't like it, that they just keep pushing us back and back and back. We're the problem they swear they'll attend to tomorrow, like a diet, and clogged gutters.



Dayasi Vo'Boda CEO of SCUM PA.
Founders of Agrilatia in the Agrilat Swamps Of Corellia (Intrepid).
Taking Scum and Villainy to a new Level to Serve YOU.
Remember: SCUM does it dirty
Another Horseman of the Smuggling Apocolypse

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