Smuggler Archive
Thread: DL-44. Still newbish. But there is still time to change it!
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MobusDyrus
Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:21 am
#1
It's a newb weapon. It is in SWG now, and it is in the CU test center. Han Solo did not use a wimpy weapon! We still have time to make the devs make it right. I really hate seeing this weapon being so sissyful. It doesn't have to be. It shouldn't be. It would be nice if the Pistoleer and Smuggler correspondents could talk to the devs about this. It's the little things like this that make games great, and they are the same things that ruin them. It is also the fixing of these little things that lets you know the devs actually care about their customers. I have hope, they are definently on the right track with the CURB so far. And it is our job to make sure they stay on the right track.
NOT a noob weapon! Proof:
http://www.swtft.com/blasters/btdl44.html
"The BlasTech DL-44 Heavy Blaster Pistol puts the power of a blaster rifle into a weapon not more than the size of a standard pistol. Preferred by smugglers and other people of similar persuasion, it causes even the bravest of people to seek cover from its fury."
^Check out the Bibliography.
http://rivendell.fortunecity.com/dark/791/blasters.htm#ef4
"A blaster pistol is a compromise: it gives the user a lot more firepower, but with very limited range - this is accomplished by draining a lot of energy from the power pack, at the expense of ammo. A heavy blaster pistol is crammed into a standard pistol frame, making it easy to disguise if necessary. These weapons are illegal or heavily restricted in many systems."
I could very well be wrong, but to me it doesn't seem like it would be so hard to change some numbers and just up the damage on the DL-44's to make them un-noobanized! You can do it, Devs! So please do.
PS
I'm sure this has been posted before. But I'm doing it again. =D
Here are pics of pistols in TC. Note how the DL-44 sucks:
Alliance Disruptor:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=setandget&tp=228789&poll_id=0&category_id=20&warned=y
CDEF: Marksman
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=228790
D18: Marksman
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=228792
DL-44: Marksman
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=228794
*the DL-44 Metal pistol at Master Marksman has 65 DPS
DX2:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=228795
Flechette:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=228797
Intimidator:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=228800
Renegade: Master Smuggler
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=228801
Scatter: BH
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=228802
NOT a noob weapon! Proof:
http://www.swtft.com/blasters/btdl44.html
"The BlasTech DL-44 Heavy Blaster Pistol puts the power of a blaster rifle into a weapon not more than the size of a standard pistol. Preferred by smugglers and other people of similar persuasion, it causes even the bravest of people to seek cover from its fury."
^Check out the Bibliography.
http://rivendell.fortunecity.com/dark/791/blasters.htm#ef4
"A blaster pistol is a compromise: it gives the user a lot more firepower, but with very limited range - this is accomplished by draining a lot of energy from the power pack, at the expense of ammo. A heavy blaster pistol is crammed into a standard pistol frame, making it easy to disguise if necessary. These weapons are illegal or heavily restricted in many systems."
I could very well be wrong, but to me it doesn't seem like it would be so hard to change some numbers and just up the damage on the DL-44's to make them un-noobanized! You can do it, Devs! So please do.
PS
I'm sure this has been posted before. But I'm doing it again. =D
Here are pics of pistols in TC. Note how the DL-44 sucks:
Alliance Disruptor:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=setandget&tp=228789&poll_id=0&category_id=20&warned=y
CDEF: Marksman
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=228790
D18: Marksman
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=228792
DL-44: Marksman
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=228794
*the DL-44 Metal pistol at Master Marksman has 65 DPS
DX2:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=228795
Flechette:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=228797
Intimidator:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=228800
Renegade: Master Smuggler
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=228801
Scatter: BH
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=228802
Message Edited by MobusDyrus on 04-01-2005 05:44 PM
Message Edited by MobusDyrus on 04-01-2005 05:48 PM
korvass
Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:19 am
#2
Yeh, I dunno what SOE's defect is with SW authenticity. In all SW media, the DL-44 has always been a heavy blaster pistol, implying that it sits near the top end of damage-dealing pistols. But no, SOE go and make it a '.38 Noob Speshul'...
I don't care though, I still use one as my primary weapon, with a fancy-pants barrel and scope customisation
Rogue135
Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:39 am
#3
I could go on all day about SOE's lack of reference on continuity issues such as this, another one that bugs me is the DX-2 Disruptor Pistol's model. Since when does the DX-2 look like an overgrown hairdryer? Every picture I've seen of it made it look very sleek and lightweight... sorry, I'm getting off topic now. Anyway, I'd like to see the DL-44 moved to a mid-range Pistoleer cert, tier 2 or 3 maybe and with a proper effectiveness increase.
I too have one with the barrel and scope, just for kicks 
Kitra
Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:27 am
#4
Well, DL44 can be a newb weapon, I suppose, but my Guild's WS just made me a Krayt, silver DL44 with a scope on it. It kicks arse and it looks awesome with the scope.
korvass
Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:15 am
#5
For sure. My 'White Knight' is fairly tank for a DL, but the point is that they should be fairly tank as standard, and not require tissue enhancements to make them decent.
maxtheusher
Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:24 am
#6
yea remember the metal dl44 is a higher level cert... for some odd reason.
AldaronTavish
Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:25 am
#7
Kitra wrote:Well, DL44 can be a newb weapon, I suppose, but my Guild's WS just made me a Krayt, silver DL44 with a scope on it. It kicks arse and it looks awesome with the scope.
Problem is after the CU the DL44metal is a Master Marksman cert.
JohnyCrash
Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:42 am
#8
/petition to make the DL-44 a Master Smuggler certified weapon.
I see they gave us a special weapon at master, wonder why they didnt make it the DL-44?
On a side note, I gotta hand it to SOE, some of the new weapons are freaking cool
I see they gave us a special weapon at master, wonder why they didnt make it the DL-44?
On a side note, I gotta hand it to SOE, some of the new weapons are freaking cool
maxtheusher
Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:44 am
#9
JohnyCrash wrote:
/petition to make the DL-44 a Master Smuggler certified weapon.
I see they gave us a special weapon at master, wonder why they didnt make it the DL-44?
On a side note, I gotta hand it to SOE, some of the new weapons are freaking cool
I dunno, much as i want to be a Solo ripoff (my lounge in the YT is an exact copy of the falcon's
The renegade is SWEET looking. I can't wait til they're craftable because as it stand all the master level pistols are clones of each other damagewise, 360-701 i think. average DPS is 264 approximately.
Oh yea they list the DPS in the stats WOOT no more math!
JohnyCrash
Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:58 am
#10
While they're at it max, SOE should make blue and red striped pants a Master Smuggler cert as well...IMHO
Zeon_Zaku
Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:46 am
#12
One thing I don't understand... in the CU, all the newbie Marksmen pistols are going to Pistoleer. Why? Just to get certified to use an FWG5, you have to be a Master Pistoleer. The weapon officially sucks currently, and you can use it with Pistols IV.
That's just not right.
That's just not right.
KloudRunner
Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:23 am
#13
yeah i carry a krayt enhanced dl-44 with barrall and scope. Boy is it a fast hard hitting pistol to, i'll get stats later
might not be a de-10 or similier uber pistol but just carrying it makes you feel like a smuggler. I agree this pistol needs making more powerful and adjusting to sit nearer the middle of pistoleer or IMHO Smuggler. Yeah make it a smuggler only weapon
all those in favour say I
ON A SIDE NOTE ABOUT CU
Been playing it today and i gotta say the smuggler attacks sound awesome, also got a couple of certs for pistols. Deathhammer and Renegade. Not bad pistols, designed for our crowd control abilitys. Also last ditch has been moved to underworld 4 along with acouple other reshuffles. I'm sure theres a smuggler somewhere that has a post in the works about this
ON A SIDE NOTE ABOUT CU
Been playing it today and i gotta say the smuggler attacks sound awesome, also got a couple of certs for pistols. Deathhammer and Renegade. Not bad pistols, designed for our crowd control abilitys. Also last ditch has been moved to underworld 4 along with acouple other reshuffles. I'm sure theres a smuggler somewhere that has a post in the works about this
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