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I really like what I have read for the smuggler revamp, and ITS ABOUT TIME. I have quit smuggler like three times, was one of the first on Gorath and have always wanted to go back since, BUT it's been boring and nothing is there for us.

Our profession is sad and broken and boring.

Hopefully after the JTL expansion and with the promising post by TH SMuggler will be right where it should be in SWG.

Back to the point. IF we are to be hunted by BH and BH are supposed to also be able to kill JEDI we need some good combat moves to make us at least competitive. Now I dont think we should have UBER combat because that is not what Smuggler is about. We use the biggest muscle of all our BRAINS and alot of times our mouths to get out of the situations. We need moves like QUICK DRAW where it literally STUNS the BH while we SMOKE SCREEEN or GETAWAY to our bikes/ships. The thrill of the chase is just that THRILLING and we should be able to take on pretty much everyone and live to talk about it.

Smugglers are not Heroes, we are low down dirty fighting, out for blood or money, get rich and have me some women kinda persons. We love life and it isnt any fun unless its dangerous and challenging.

Just some observations, but I am really pulling for some SMART COMBAT moves in the revamp. Think Brains not Brawn on our part.

Message Edited by HOTDOG on 06-18-2004 10:28 AM

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HOTDOG wrote:

We need skills- but not combat skills. You must remember that a Master smuggler still has enough SP to Master TWO other pure combat professions. To give us more combat skills would be an inbalance. We need evasion skills.

A smuggler on their own should NOT be able to handle a BH but they shouldn't be easy to kill because of their ability to escape.

The smuggler should be able to baffle- confuse- delay and talk their way out of most of their troubles.

A smuggler with onepure combat professionmight havetrouble with a BH.

Amaster smuggler/master commando should be able to go toe to toe with a BH.

Atriple master: TKA/Smuggler/Pistoleer should be able tomake a BH think twice about taking that bounty.

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Good post.

We need skills, but I do not believe we need combat skills to compete with a BH. Smugglers are sapose to be good at getting out of sticky situations, not blast their way out.

Exactly what I am talking about.... Ok TH, here is some more info. this is what we want. DO IT DO IT DO IT> please

Why should smugglers any additional skills just because we will be hunted by BHs. If I read GMs post then anyone using spice or sliced items will generate visibility (i.e. become a BH target). This means that joe blow artisan that has a sliced CDEF and maybe uses the occasional spice to save his butt can get a bounty on him. By your reasoning then he should also be beefed up...

Dont get me wrong. I think we as smugglers deserve a little more offensive/deffensive abilities but not just because we will be tracked by BHs.

Because we are THE Smugglers.

Seriously though:

I was thinking along the lines that we are Smugglers and that all the stuff in DF tree needs to be replaces or revamped as well. Especially if we are going to be getting tracked by BHs. Smuggling is our business it's what we do, we should have the skills/know how to do it the best way we can.

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HOTDOG wrote:

We need skills- but not combat skills. You must remember that a Master smuggler still has enough SP to Master TWO other pure combat professions. To give us more combat skills would be an inbalance. We need evasion skills.

A smuggler on their own should NOT be able to handle a BH but they shouldn't be easy to kill because of their ability to escape.

The smuggler should be able to baffle- confuse- delay and talk their way out of most of their troubles.

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You can't base what combat skills Smuggler should have based on what other professions a person may choose to do. Many combat professions leave you enough skill points to master another and get a number of boxes in a 3rd. To do that is to cripple people who choose to be a master smuggler and also master a crafting or entertainer profession instead of another combat prof.

However, I do agree that any skills we do get should be evasion/defensive skills opposed to offensive. Smugglers are thought of as sneaky, underhanded, scoundrels (as seen in the Dirty Fighting line). We should have to use trickery and deceit to survive, rather than having to stand toe-to-toe and fight it out.

• Vehicle speed bonus (How fast can you make the Parsec Run?)


• Dodge (He's a Slippery one he is)


• Some sort of temporary radar block (Jam their radar)


• And definitely some seriously Dirty Fighting tactics


• Heck...I'd even like to see Smugglers be able to fake their Alliance status...Make them be able to appear as Rebels when they are Imps or vice versa...