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SmugglinZane

Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:31 am

I copied this from the AS forum from someone who copied it from the Jedi forum... I snipped it to the part that REALLY caught my eye.

Hi All,

I went to the indy player breakfast this Saturday. Heck, I live in Indy, would feel stupid if I hadn't gone. I was left with a few impressions, some on Jedi, that I would like to share.

The dev team:

Greenmarine. This guy I have respect for. To look at him, I would not have guessed he was very old at all. The funny thing was that for his aparent age, he was the developer that seemed most interested in what WE thought. He seemed interested in making it better. He is currently hip deep in smuggler revamp. Our loss as he is not over in the CURB.

I see two things in this statement.

1. They are working on the revamp now, not waiting until after the CU to get started. That's great news for us.

2. GM is working on it. Seeing as he has been one of the only people who really seem to get what we're talking about, I'm thrilled he is getting to work on it.

"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114

cpz

Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:36 am

#2

Ugh

I had literally just decided to quit Smuggler.

And now, as usual, something crops up to reignite those last desperate drops of hope

oooooooooooooooooo
Colonel Narayan Darkfly (RIP)
Master Smuggler
Eclipse

The Awful Truth [now santized for family friendly fun]: One Two Three Four Five Six

HOTDOG

Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:50 am

#3

cpz wrote:

Ugh

I had literally just decided to quit Smuggler.

And now, as usual, something crops up to reignite those last desperate drops of hope

Whaaaaaat!?!?

You didin't even write up a "I'm gonna leave"(tm) post.

What? You thought you were gonna just respec out and nobody notice!?

Well, we gotcha don't we? No matter how hardyou try to get out we just keep pulling you back in!

This is AWESOME news folks. I would think they would need for Smuggler to be brought into line pretty quick with us slicing weapons and all and potentially messin' up their pretty lil' CU.

It's good to know GM isat the helm and hip deep into our prof. I feel better and better about choosing the Content King temp everyday!

...Hmph. "Justdecided to quit"...grumble grumble....

TEVIN STARGUNNER | WASODO T'GADIE

Rogue | Desperado | Demolitionist Short | Dark | Handsome

maxtheusher

Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:50 am

#4

GM needs to be cloned or something. The man seems to be the single Dev who understands what galaxies is SUPPOSED to be.

He literally comes up with solutions to everything. There was a post early in the CU about an issue, and the Dev response was, GM's thought of a way around that.

And he's back on smuggler! they let him out of his cage! woooooo!

大胆框

赏金猎人

动性交你 SOE

OrachDamh

Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:08 am

#5

The saddest part of it all is that GM said they will not be adding player bounties on smugglers. I for one think it would great fun to be hunted by a player BH after I have killed off the NPC BH that comes after us. Also, when the CU goes live, I believe that PvP will be more prevalent since most players will be running around with 3k HAM, so its not like we will be running around unbuffed like we do now. The majority of smugglers ive talked with want the player bounties. Sone one should start a petition.

Orach Damh - MBH - Master Pistoleer

Grian Righ - TKM - Master Smuggler

SmugglinZane

Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:19 am

#6

OrachDamh wrote:

The saddest part of it all is that GM said they will not be adding player bounties on smugglers. I for one think it would great fun to be hunted by a player BH after I have killed off the NPC BH that comes after us. Also, when the CU goes live, I believe that PvP will be more prevalent since most players will be running around with 3k HAM, so its not like we will be running around unbuffed like we do now. The majority of smugglers ive talked with want the player bounties. Sone one should start a petition.

Orach Damh - MBH - Master Pistoleer

Grian Righ - TKM - Master Smuggler

It is disappointing, but I understand their feelings on it. Jedis were the test run on it, and all you have to do is look at those boards to see why they're so hesitant to push forward with player bounties on Smugglers.

That being said, there's no reason we can't push for a different line of Smuggler missions that COULD lead to bounties. A lot of what GM put forward a long time ago came from listening to player proposals. A lot of the revamp docs have come from those posts from GM.

It may not be the end of the tunnel, but it's a faint glimmer when we haven't seen so much as a sliver of light in 2 years.

In other words, we need to continue to fight the fight, but let's use the new weapons (the revamp docs) we've been given.

"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114

HOTDOG

Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:06 am

#7

That's very sad.

I only hope that they change their minds on this as a great many of us would like to have it- even if it's on that level where you would really have to go out of your way to earn a bounty.

TEVIN STARGUNNER | WASODO T'GADIE

Rogue | Desperado | Demolitionist Short | Dark | Handsome

SmugglinZane

Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:24 am

#8

HOTDOG wrote:

That's very sad.

I only hope that they change their minds on this as a great many of us would like to have it- even if it's on that level where you would really have to go out of your way to earn a bounty.

It's up to us to change their minds. Remember the first "revamp" they tried to toss at us? We stopped that one cold.

I'm not saying we need to stop this revamp, I'm saying we take this one and build on it. Let's go back to the days when we turned our anger into constructive ideas on ways the devs could implement all kinds of ideas.

In my opinion, it all hinges on a contraband system. It always has. Player Smuggling, Smuggler bounties, all of it has always begun by taking that first very important step.

We're getting our revamp, it's being worked on by our preferred dev, so let's push for the future.

"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114

maxtheusher

Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:32 am

#9

We need player bounties. NEED them. Smuggler will NOT be complete without them. However, it needs to be different than Jedi bounties. We need ways to evade the BHs. We need to be able to spot their tracking droid, slice it, and make the BH go to the wrong wp. We need to be able to hide in some smuggler cave that's off the beaten trail and out of range of seekers, but the BH, if he knows about it, can head there and look for himself. Things like that. Both profs need to be made more robust before it can be viable, but we do need to force the issue.

大胆框

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动性交你 SOE

AngusMacGregor

Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:01 am

#10

As long as they don't pull GM off the Revamp (again), we just might be in good shape.

"C O L O N E L A N G U S" M A C G R E G O R

DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION

I am Jack's ignored profession.

My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.

cpz

Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:58 am

#11

HOTDOG wrote:

cpz wrote:

Ugh

I had literally just decided to quit Smuggler.

And now, as usual, something crops up to reignite those last desperate drops of hope

Whaaaaaat!?!?

You didin't even write up a "I'm gonna leave"(tm) post.

What? You thought you were gonna just respec out and nobody notice!?

Well, we gotcha don't we? No matter how hardyou try to get out we just keep pulling you back in!

This is AWESOME news folks. I would think they would need for Smuggler to be brought into line pretty quick with us slicing weapons and all and potentially messin' up their pretty lil' CU.

It's good to know GM isat the helm and hip deep into our prof. I feel better and better about choosing the Content King temp everyday!

...Hmph. "Justdecided to quit"...grumble grumble....

Come on man, you know how it is.

You're stuck looking at different templates all day, then the brainwave hits - why stick with Smuggler? Why? Get back that 30ish skill points locked in Unarmed, lose the pistol fetish and grab a rifle. And some BH. And some Medic. or SL, etc etc

And then, 5 minutes later, you've washed your hands of Smuggler. Gone, rinsed.

And then the lonely lament kicks in.

And grows.

And swells.

Until you're scrabbling back to the Prof Calculator, greedily grabbing back the Smuggler trees you let wash away minutes before, lovingly remembering idiotic slice customers and warmly thinking of the credits you've scammed from faction purchasers. And then you're back, sat atop the mountain, on a glorious thronw made of copper or aluminium, loud and proud of the title that makes you more than any other in the entire game: Master Smuggler.

Don't listen to my idle threats of leaving. I never will, rest assured. I can't.

oooooooooooooooooo
Colonel Narayan Darkfly (RIP)
Master Smuggler
Eclipse

The Awful Truth [now santized for family friendly fun]: One Two Three Four Five Six

HOTDOG

Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:03 am

#12

This is a discussion I would like to have:

Has SOE decided steadfastly that they do NOT want to introduce player vs. player Smuggler Bounties? And if so, why? What needs to be done in order for SOE to institute these bounties that many from both professions would like to see?

If the topic was brought up and opened for discussion I'm sure there are a lot of sensible people from our board and the BH board that would like to talk about it and see it come to fruition.

I know from the last time we talked with GM about this that he was down with PvP bounties. At the same time he did state something to the effect that SOE would probably be against anything that opened the whole player base up to bounties.

I also remember that Caylin stated something about SOE wanting to keep PvP in the GCW. I can understand that too BUT there are plenty of ways for Smugglers to earn player bounties while participating inthe GCW.

Maybe I should call someone on this...

any tips Veela?

and where is your site with all our pictures on it?- I wanna add mine.

TEVIN STARGUNNER | WASODO T'GADIE

Rogue | Desperado | Demolitionist Short | Dark | Handsome

cpz

Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:08 am

#13

Is the answer actually simple?

ie if you blow a SF base, you gain vis?

oooooooooooooooooo
Colonel Narayan Darkfly (RIP)
Master Smuggler
Eclipse

The Awful Truth [now santized for family friendly fun]: One Two Three Four Five Six

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