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Thread: Why smugglers make NO money selling faction
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Unika
Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:23 pm
#2
Not to mention the times we are stiffed by contracts. A friend recently purchased 2 million in faction for a client. Client then had faction delegated, and was boasting about stiffing the smuggler. Lesson learned, never delegate till money is in hand. Even if it is in the trade window one click of enter or the other person canceling and you are stuck :/
Really wish I could have hired a BH on that guy or my friend could have at least.
Really wish I could have hired a BH on that guy or my friend could have at least.
Message Edited by Unika on 09-16-2005 01:23 PM
Dosi
Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:25 pm
#3
Lol, not once have I delegated fp before receiving my payment. Sorry, but that's your friends fault as much as the other guy.
Wester34
Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:41 pm
#4
I give fp free to my guildies. . . its not a profitable business because well. . .its faction points. . .you can buy like. . .denim jeans and hats with it, that is if youre rebel
Master Bounty Hunter/Master Pistoleer/4xxx Smuggler
jleathers
Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:07 pm
#6
I was speaking with a Guildy today and mentioned that I need to get Colonal so I can start selling Faction as a revenue stream. So he says well all you have to do is setup a Macro at this place on Naboo and by morning you will have 120k Faction or atleast all you will need to get to Colonal.
So thats when I think to myself how in the world am I going to sell something that someone can get for free.
I don't know about everyone else but it is getting pretty hard for me to make a profit being a smuggler these days. I have made more money collecting Kash loot that I can't use and selling it. Its either that or go help an xp grind group for the mission money which is fun for about five minutes.
oh well, I guess money is not that important when all you have to do is whine to someone until they give you free stuff.
Now I just need to find a tailor to craft me some really bad clothes so I can start my Pan-Handeling Macro
Smuggler for life...
Opact
Rogue135
Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:03 pm
#8
JudiSWG wrote:
I gave up on selling FP, the profit is just not there.
Ditto.
It's too much trouble, too time consuming, not to mention the inherent danger of having to be Special Forces. All in all, it's simply not worth it in my opinion. That said, if you are going to do it - play the part. You are a smuggler, they want your help it's on your terms - insist on payment up front, if they have a problem with that, too bad, they can find someone else.
Daermoth
Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:23 pm
#9
hell, i dont even go overt till i have the money. still manage to sell faction for profit though.
Ellyria
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:04 pm
#10
i have people coming to me for faction all of the time. guildies are free if its a little bit, like the 200 to go rebel. casual friends/repeat customers at cost, and i charge 100 cpu for everyone else. i dont make a fortune but i do make money.
newbExtraordinaire
Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:54 am
#11
Well, some people are in a real hurry when it comes to faction points, and that's where the profits are. I charge 100-150 cpu, depending on the annoyance factor of the customer (thanks to Thille for that lil' trick 
), and if they won't meet my price, then they'll have to find another smuggler. Most of the time they return 30 minutes later, because I'm the only smuggler online 
), and if they won't meet my price, then they'll have to find another smuggler. Most of the time they return 30 minutes later, because I'm the only smuggler online
AtomicFB
Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:08 am
#12
I make a little money selling faction but yoru right you have to do it on your terms. I charge no less that 115 per point and that is if I am feeling generous, usually around 150 a point. They don't like it they can go somewhere else.
Kal_Serrak
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:38 am
#13
Costs of Faction Point Selling (I hope to the Smugging Gods my math is correct)
Standard Cost Per Point (at cost) - 118cr per 1fp
Bothan Cost Per Point (at cost) - 107.3cr per 1fp
Project Dead-Eye Bonus (Cost per point at cost) - 94.4cr per 1fp
Project Dead-Eye + Bothan Bonus (Cost per Point at Cost) - 85.1cr per 1fp
at 150cr per 1fp at the best possible cost per point, each 1000cr would net a profit of 64900cr
at 150cr per 1fp at the normal cost per point, each 1000cr would net a profit of 32000cr
Now, I've seen M.Smugglers (who I hope are just /respec ones) selling faction at 100cr per 1fp, which would mean at best a profit of 14900cr per 1000fp.
I've always asked for 200cr per 1fp on Naritus, perhaps because I could get away with it, but also because it was the only amount that would even interest me in going overt for the inevitable S.F. Jedi Knight that would show up.
Just for your information, if it's correct. But to be honest, I can still make more money per hour in space selling components than I can make being a smuggler in the same amount of time.
Standard Cost Per Point (at cost) - 118cr per 1fp
Bothan Cost Per Point (at cost) - 107.3cr per 1fp
Project Dead-Eye Bonus (Cost per point at cost) - 94.4cr per 1fp
Project Dead-Eye + Bothan Bonus (Cost per Point at Cost) - 85.1cr per 1fp
at 150cr per 1fp at the best possible cost per point, each 1000cr would net a profit of 64900cr
at 150cr per 1fp at the normal cost per point, each 1000cr would net a profit of 32000cr
Now, I've seen M.Smugglers (who I hope are just /respec ones) selling faction at 100cr per 1fp, which would mean at best a profit of 14900cr per 1000fp.
I've always asked for 200cr per 1fp on Naritus, perhaps because I could get away with it, but also because it was the only amount that would even interest me in going overt for the inevitable S.F. Jedi Knight that would show up.
Just for your information, if it's correct. But to be honest, I can still make more money per hour in space selling components than I can make being a smuggler in the same amount of time.
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