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Thread: Temp question: anyone a M-Smuggler/TKM?

01201986
Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:00 pm
#1


Im considering dropping the MBH half of my template to go TKM instead. has anyone played the m-smuggler/tkm combo? how effective is it? both in pve and pvp? any input at all would be great. thanks guys

Message Edited by 01201986 on 08-20-2005 09:16 PM



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EdoctaT
Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:02 pm
#2

MASTER SMUGGLER JEDI PADAWAN! DUH! jk....





KureJiBaka
Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:26 pm
#3

I thought of that for a while, too, but from what I've heard, Smuggler Bonuses to Melee aren't that great, and considering you don't get any special attacks, I suppose it's better to stick with ranged.



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01201986
Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:32 pm
#4



Im considering dropping the MBH half of my template to go TKM instead. has anyone played the m-smuggler/tkm combo? how effective is it? both in pve and pvp? any input at all would be great. thanks guys



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EdoctaT
Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:37 pm
#5

Lol it was a joke... Go master Smuggler/Master rifles so you can at least do SOME damage cause smuggler does no


damage!


EvilOfTdawg
Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:55 pm
#6



01201986 wrote:
Im considering dropping the MBH half of my template to go TKM instead. has anyone played the m-smuggler/tkm combo? how effective is it? both in pve and pvp? any input at all would be great. thanks guys



Wow... that would suck pretty bad. :/





-Tdawg-


01201986
Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:54 pm
#7

well, I'm looking for opinions from people who may have tried it using respecs just after cu smuggler has some unarmed mods, and i would also have master brawler and a bit of swordsman or another elite melee



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01201986
Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:55 pm
#8

yeah, well as you know smuggler has some unarmed mods, and i would also have master brawler and a bit of swordsman or another elite melee



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Lonelan
Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:00 pm
#9

On my main I'm a MS/TKM. Its fun. Don't really need armor thanks to TK armor, and its pretty decent. Blast mobs that are melee and keep em ranged, close to melee with ranged mobs and take em down with TK. By no means is TK/Smuggler a tank setup, but it does help with support a little bit. Gives you another KD too.



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01201986
Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:05 pm
#10

solo CL's in the low 80's fairly easily? and can i ask what your dps is on a set of katarn knuckles? if you have them? my scatter's modded dps is about 600 (speed slice), I'd of course like it if the knucks were comparable



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Iawo
Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:39 pm
#11


/wave


There's a few of us brawling smugglers out there. You pretty much have to play it as a melee toon that can do smuggler junk and light crowd control, kite if needed. I tried all kinds of different templates with my respecs, and the one in my sig is the best I could come up with being TKM and keeping someSmuggler. You'll want to use a Knuckes of the Katarn (or Necrosis Nightblade, slightly lower damage, but still a good weapon) after you get TKM. You'll also want to get at least 0030 swords for the adv armor break. I can, and do on occasion, use a pistol to land low blow and overwelming shot, but I always make sure to refresh CoB first since defense takes a dive with a pistol equipped. Concussion shot also comes in handy every now and then when you have multiples on you. My base DPS with any TKM weapon is higher than most other TKM's since I have extra speed, and you get 190 accuracy out of that template so you don't whiff as often.


PvE, I can easily solo all nightsisters that I've tried so far, if there's more than 3 on me I just kill one or two, then feign for a bit to let my action and mind regen. With the right combo of foods and a med / combat / repair droid, I can solo Juvy and Canyon Krayts,or duo Giant Krayts with a friend. I can't even think about tanking Grand or Ancient Krayts, but I can always pull out a pistol and kite if I have to. Damage output takes a serious dive with my renegade pistol equipped, because of the low accuracy... but accuracy food helps out there somewhat. You'll want to do a full speed slice on your pistol, since the speed mod is pathetic.


I don't PvP, but I would imagine this would be a pretty poor PvP template with the low healing abilities. Only duel I've done was against a full template Jedi Knight for fun, and as you can probably guess I got wasted pretty fast since he could outdamage me and I couldn't heal fast enough. I couldeasily damage him, I justcouldn't do it fast enough. Haven't tried anybody else, but I would imagine the healing abilities would be my downfall there as well. Now if Force of Will ever gets fixed or changed to an avoid incap like skill, then I could see a Last Ditch + Force of Will combo being pretty nasty in PvP... I'm sure somebody out there could make a similar template work for PvP, but you'd have to have a lot of practice.


My mods as of right now with bio clothes, Imp PSG, no CA's, AA's, or food:


Healing eff +23 (18 from bio pants)... with my med droid out I heal for about 1k, but I rarely need to heal unless I'm fighting something elite. Nightsisters up to level 85 are still pretty easy.

Unarmed: Speed 115, Accuracy 200, melee defense 262 (only +7 from clothes), ranged defense 230

Pistol mods: Speed 50 (LOL), accuracy 105, melee defense 207, ranged defense 175


Foods, I only use blob candy unless I'm fighting tougher things, then I'll use Accaragram instead (substitute a round of blob candy + spiced tea if I start to get full of drinks), Vegesparine (sp?), Crispic (more accuracy is always good), Citros Snow Cake (woohoo healing effeciency!), and the occasional Booster Blue. Good thing about not having to wear armor, you can spend all you want on foods.


I also currently have Enhanced Reflexes 0120, but I'm slowly reworking that toward 0300.

Message Edited by Iawo on 08-21-2005 12:41 AM



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01201986
Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:57 pm
#12


wow, thx, this is the kind of info i was looking for


a question tho


the advanced armor break from swords. i assume you have to equip a 2handed wep to use this ability?

Message Edited by 01201986 on 08-21-2005 01:58 AM



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Iawo
Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:59 pm
#13

I replied to your thread on the smuggler forums. It's not a PvP template, but it works a lot better PvE than most people would think.



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