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Thread: Whoohaa!! SOE going the wrong way!!

notanumber
Mon Jan 03, 2005 2:43 pm
#1

This is taken from the Studio update part 2:


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Underworld
Adding to the underworld is not part of our near term plans, and probably is a candidate for a future expansion given it's scope. Sorry!
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Last we where told was that Greenmarine was working on the Smuggler re-vamp but had to put it on hold until after JTL and the Combat rebalance!!


Now it sounds like they haven't even thought about it let alone started anything.


"Probably a candidate".... PROBABLY!!!.... sounds like some major back tracking going on there!!




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maxtheusher
Mon Jan 03, 2005 2:55 pm
#2

Hrmmmmm..... Sounds like SOE is playing the word game again. Yes we'll get right on your "S"muggler revamp, but that won't include Underworld, sorry, but the Underworld is cool as it is, since it has nothing to do with any actual underworld activities, it fits well into the current smuggler profession...

Maybe they'll give EVERYone, smuggler or no, some "u"nderworld skills now, just to show how much they appreciate smugglers.



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Bzzzz
Mon Jan 03, 2005 2:59 pm
#3

Sweet!! I was joking at the time, but I called that over a year ago. Not only is a meaningful revamp completely off the radar, it'll cost us another $29.99.


I hope that Wes and whatever other Glowys are all over this.




-Zz
yimaz
Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:00 pm
#4

The statement isin reference to adding UnderWorld content not a Smuggler re-vamp. While I will give you the fact that the 2 go hand in hand they are in fact different topics in the post you are quoting from.



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Bzzzz
Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:31 pm
#5






yimaz wrote:

The statement isin reference to adding UnderWorld content not a Smuggler re-vamp. While I will give you the fact that the 2 go hand in hand they are in fact different topics in the post you are quoting from.







"Revamping" Smuggler without changing the Underworld line isn't a revamp I can get excited in. Underworld is where we're lacking. Having new pistol shots, combat moves, spices.. whatever. I really don't care.That's not why I or many of us havewaited around for a revamp. None of that is important to our core mission of actually smuggling.


Furthermore, we can't be said to have been "revamped" with a dead branch on our skilltree. If Underworld is off the radar and they're "revamping" us without it, cut it off completely and give us something else. Dwindling Faction sales may be missed, but none of us will miss the Sanford minigame or care overmuch when we no longer understand Twi'lek tentacle-gestures.


If this was another famous SOE Smuggler-Related Misspeak (tm) and he really meant the underworld of SWG, then so be it. If our Underworld skills are being replaced with Smuggling abilities in a meaningful Smuggler revamp and the seedy underworld-related fluff all comes later (at another $29.99 premium), then I can accept it. But somehow I doubt that's what he meant.


A Smuggler revamp isn't just a few recipes and working combat-skills. It's about giving us a reason to exist in SWG. We've all been "Vroom-vrooming!!" around roleplaying our profession for long enough,and it's time they commit to implementing what they advertised at release!



-Zz

Smuggler_Caylin
Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:32 pm
#6

"If our Underworld skills are being replaced with Smuggling abilities in a meaningful Smuggler revamp and the seedy underworld-related fluff all comes later (at another $29.99 premium), then I can accept it. But somehow I doubt that's what he meant."

I'm possitive that's what he meant. It would be rediculous for him to post about a single skill tree in Smuggler in such a broad post. It's about the criminal environment as a whole.



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Smuggler_Caylin
Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:38 pm
#7

Whoa, this thread was modded?



The Infamous Caylin Borealis - First Master Smuggler on Bria
One of the Four Horsemen of the Smuggler Apocalypse!
:The Ghost with the Most:

DrevenStrobe
Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:46 pm
#8






Smuggler_Caylin wrote:
Whoa, this thread was modded?






Yeah...and in the typical modding practices, they deleted both of our original posts...which were both, not only positive, but extremely level-headed.


/boggle...




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Bzzzz
Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:52 pm
#9

Maybe they're trying to erase all traces of the remaining Old Guard? Don't want you tainting the youth, after all.




-Zz
Smuggler_Caylin
Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:53 pm
#10

/raises cane.



The Infamous Caylin Borealis - First Master Smuggler on Bria
One of the Four Horsemen of the Smuggler Apocalypse!
:The Ghost with the Most:

fishbrains
Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:04 pm
#11






Smuggler_Caylin wrote:
/raises cane.





damn kids, stay off the lawn! Can't you read the sign?



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Fernas
Mon Jan 03, 2005 5:02 pm
#12

i don't want to be a better fighter or a better drug pusher, i want to be a smuggler. that, of course, requires and underworld. *sigh*



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Tyal Eclipse Master Trader
Methorg Aprawi Kettemoor Creature Handler (Retired)

I'm in this for the Experience, not the XP.

Fighters fight.
Crafters craft.
Healers heal.
Smugglers do not smuggle.
Ternque01
Mon Jan 03, 2005 5:13 pm
#13






Smuggler_Caylin wrote:
/raises cane.






LOL!


The part that bugs me is that in my mind the Underworld and our actual environment and capacity to smuggle IS THE SAME THING. You need a crimeworld and ACTUALLY ENFORCED LAWS in order to (a) work for someone and (b) have someone to slip it past.




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The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
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