Smuggler Archive
Thread: If a developer ever posted here . . .
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maRRsTu
Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:43 pm
#4
Will you give SL, Ranger and Commando some love?
SL, In places like the DWB you have a 8 group limit and need keys so you want as few groups as possible Idley Jedi tanks/healer, Mezzers and Rezzers no room for the little bonus a SL gives. Maby make it that with a SL you can increase group size.
Ranger needs more SP then anyone els and even then only two lines ofranger are realy used (Harvesting and tacking) It is also imposible to get CL 80 with healing with one line of ranger while picking up some damage output. All other professions can do this. (Double master with 4/0/0/0 doc or CM)
Commando's only have AOE weapons they agro everything. Commando is suppose to be all about the weapons but their weapons are not as good as a t21 because of the SAC cap.
Now as TKM I dont feel like best tank in the game (My template does not allow full armor mitigration) Sliced armor is alot better and armor can be customized to fit your needs. our only good specis (Improved COB at 0/1/0/0) means a swordsman with that skill is a better tank (Given good armor and slice). Maby add innate armor CAs?
SL, In places like the DWB you have a 8 group limit and need keys so you want as few groups as possible Idley Jedi tanks/healer, Mezzers and Rezzers no room for the little bonus a SL gives. Maby make it that with a SL you can increase group size.
Ranger needs more SP then anyone els and even then only two lines ofranger are realy used (Harvesting and tacking) It is also imposible to get CL 80 with healing with one line of ranger while picking up some damage output. All other professions can do this. (Double master with 4/0/0/0 doc or CM)
Commando's only have AOE weapons they agro everything. Commando is suppose to be all about the weapons but their weapons are not as good as a t21 because of the SAC cap.
Now as TKM I dont feel like best tank in the game (My template does not allow full armor mitigration) Sliced armor is alot better and armor can be customized to fit your needs. our only good specis (Improved COB at 0/1/0/0) means a swordsman with that skill is a better tank (Given good armor and slice). Maby add innate armor CAs?
nikko11
Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:27 am
#5
Squad Leader/Doctor would be an interesting pure support class, eh?
_scout_
Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:42 am
#6
If a Developer would post here, I would ask
Related to Squad Leader
Regarding the overall game:
07-28-2005 08:25 AM
Tiggs doesnt count, because she is community relations. It is your job to communicate with us. In that Im heavily disapointed by you although Im not a long time gamer as some pre launch around. You should post 10x times more often (not just here but in general).
As member of the community relations departement you also could avoid those cross forum questions above from smugglers and rangers that are in need of attention too, if you would communicate with them or at least the correspondents on a more frequent and regular basis.
Your job should be communicating a lot more and a lot more transparent. I know, when you say something and it gets changed, you run the risk of getting it thrown back at you but this will only happen when you not inform us of the change and why it was changed too. Again a more transparent way of work would have gotten a lot more understanding than all this obscurity.
I welcome the return of the list of know issues but again, I ask you why was this idea ever dropped?
Now, after I get answeres on that from either a DEV or a manager or someone in charge, I can ask question regarding the profession itself but before that isnt answered, I dont see any point in posting tons of ideas, issues, revamps, bugfixes or anything here. If Tiggs has to answere them since the others are so busy, I want that she at least has backed it up with either of them and gives us the names of those who backed her up on those answers. Tiggs is just responsible for community relations according her title and even that is only very sparse (and as it looks to me in both directions). There should be flowing a lot more infos in both directions.
Now, yes, I do collect all those issues at the Star Wars Wiki here and complile them but only out of frustration because I see so much potential in this profession as well in the overall game and it gets thrown away or locked up behind the almost never ending wall of silence from you, communtiy relations in total, the DEVs, and the rest of SOE SWG.
If you could forward this link to the developer who is responsible for the squad leader profession and get him to make a account there and say hello, I would see that as first big step for compensating all previous failures. There he can brainstorm together with the community on one document rather than giving ever to long threads with always repeating ideas in variations through several hands, edited and deleted beyond recognition.
And I do insist on a reply on my post, from at least Tiggs and to give you a good retreat possibility: if you can not, want not or are too scared to give answere, I would accept an "I have read this." as an reply.
I could go on for ages but I close now.
And yes, I do meddle in the affairs of dragons since I am dragon myself.
Related to Squad Leader
- Why did you moved the - IC 5: Squad Leader Profession Revamp - "to archive" without a note to either the correspondent or the squad leader community rather than locking it?
After the disasterous answere "we dont know what to do with you" on FanFest, that looked very much like somebody was trying to cover their fault to communicate that thread as well with us as well with the designated squad leader developer.
Or did you just deleted that thread ? - Why, after you guys honestly admitted, that "you dont know what to do with us", nobody communicated with us here and said "Sorry for the mess, we need input" or at least assigned that task to the correspondent so he collects some input for you, so letting them doing unpaid work for you speeding up the development process?
Even though the Squad leader revamp wouldnt be sheduled for the next X years a word of communication then would might have gotten understanding regarding the tremendous changes that happened during the CU. - Which developer is in charge of the Squad Leader revamp? Give at least the correspondent a name.
I know you have to shift ppl around, to focus them on certain tasks and duties. So he might be working for a long time on some important (read money making aka -jedi) things. But wouldnt assigning at least one person to such a task already now, in the long term would allow his mind to start getting thinking about this.
Creativity can not always be forced and as we sah with the new BH Elite mission and their new drops, maybe that assigned DEV has a good idea in his spare time and improves it for free.
Since it looks like most of the DEVs do not read or ever get to see a original post from these forums, they even might be interested to browse this forum to get a feel for the squad leader community.
Or are you afraid that those DEVs want to spare more time with their family if it comes to flesh those ideas out? - Since you openly admitted that squad leaders are not that many so we arent an issue, how do you expect us to continue on anything? (Fan fest comment)
That statement is like admitting we never will get some love because our priority will never be high enough take some of the precious coding time from the DEVs. So why should we bother posting ideas, issues, concepts here when they never make it to list of things need to be done? Stating that Sl always will stay at its current state would be almost the same and at least save us all a lot of time.
Regarding the overall game:
- Why dont you use bugzilla for tracking bugs? Why dont you work more together with the correspondents regarding profession related bugs? Why dont you clone them a toon on a fixed TC center where you let them help trying to reproduce those bugs so again they do unpaid work for you speeding up the process.
- What is the stance of SOE SWG and LA regarding the huge amount of jedi running around in SWG? Although everybody say jedi is the most starwarsy profession they always forget it was because there were only so few of them. It was their rarity in SW what made them starwarsy never their power or numbers.
- Why did those CH changes werent announced a lot earlier on your correspondent forum, even when the correspondents werent allowed to pass this on or knew when they would happen?
That would have again been a sign that SOE is honestly willing to communicate with at least its correspondents. With the history of SOE SWG communication skills this wall of silence is more and more interpreted as ignorance and lack of interest. - Why dont you use the correspondents and the community a lot more to communicate and brainstorm ideas and to flesh them out?
It is generally know that 5 brains of an IQ of 100 achieve almost the same as one with an IQ of 150. You could have the correspondents gather feedback and ideas and filter them down so you just have to work with the pre prepared list the correspondents provide you. - Why none of your DEVs is realy using an at least weekly open developer blog?
The CU DEV blog was just a farce with - how many? - 5 posts during the whole time?
They dont have to write hundreds of words in it, just some notes whats on shedule. - See my rant here.
How long does SOE want to continue this half paced work on SWG before they realice that there lies a fortune in SWG because it is different and assign more ppl and more money to this project, rather than raising their already crushed and deathblowed pet project EQ2 that was "one hit incaped" by WoW.
07-28-2005 08:25 AM
Tiggs wrote:
Tiggs doesnt count, because she is community relations. It is your job to communicate with us. In that Im heavily disapointed by you although Im not a long time gamer as some pre launch around. You should post 10x times more often (not just here but in general).
As member of the community relations departement you also could avoid those cross forum questions above from smugglers and rangers that are in need of attention too, if you would communicate with them or at least the correspondents on a more frequent and regular basis.
Your job should be communicating a lot more and a lot more transparent. I know, when you say something and it gets changed, you run the risk of getting it thrown back at you but this will only happen when you not inform us of the change and why it was changed too. Again a more transparent way of work would have gotten a lot more understanding than all this obscurity.
- Security through obscurity is never an option.
I welcome the return of the list of know issues but again, I ask you why was this idea ever dropped?
Now, after I get answeres on that from either a DEV or a manager or someone in charge, I can ask question regarding the profession itself but before that isnt answered, I dont see any point in posting tons of ideas, issues, revamps, bugfixes or anything here. If Tiggs has to answere them since the others are so busy, I want that she at least has backed it up with either of them and gives us the names of those who backed her up on those answers. Tiggs is just responsible for community relations according her title and even that is only very sparse (and as it looks to me in both directions). There should be flowing a lot more infos in both directions.
Now, yes, I do collect all those issues at the Star Wars Wiki here and complile them but only out of frustration because I see so much potential in this profession as well in the overall game and it gets thrown away or locked up behind the almost never ending wall of silence from you, communtiy relations in total, the DEVs, and the rest of SOE SWG.
If you could forward this link to the developer who is responsible for the squad leader profession and get him to make a account there and say hello, I would see that as first big step for compensating all previous failures. There he can brainstorm together with the community on one document rather than giving ever to long threads with always repeating ideas in variations through several hands, edited and deleted beyond recognition.
And I do insist on a reply on my post, from at least Tiggs and to give you a good retreat possibility: if you can not, want not or are too scared to give answere, I would accept an "I have read this." as an reply.
I could go on for ages but I close now.
And yes, I do meddle in the affairs of dragons since I am dragon myself.
Erkman
Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:48 am
#7
SWG has come to the point where the Devs are able to post any kind of crap and the community will be happy just because they saw a post... Wouldnt suprise me if they dont answer the guy above me...
Errik
PetHuman
Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:53 am
#8
Erkman wrote:
SWG has come to the point where the Devs are able to post any kind of crap and the community will be happy just because they saw a post... Wouldnt suprise me if they dont answer the guy above me...
would banning his acount be the same?
and more over, can the forum mods delete a thread once a dev/cor posts to it....?
/grabs a fistfull of tigg's popcorn.
....interesting
Sylow
Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:15 am
#9
My snappy answer would just have been along the line of "communication", too. So, Scout summed it up pretty well. A bit too agressive for my taste, but in essence i fully agree. We don't want miracles, but we want communication.
YoungWizard
Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:33 am
#11
I just would ask, are we basing our limited numbers off of number of SLs who post here or do we actually have a guy with a clipboard in the game who is taking a survey on the number of SLs who just dont talk cause we just get punched in the mouth each time we open it?
some of us are bloodied enough and are at the point of not talking about what we want cause its pointless, or seems that way heres an example
I asked my weapon smith today about intimidator pistols,
"so bud when are you making a run of inimidator pistols?"
"soon i need to get them going again."
"i bet thats not a big seller anymore with the lack of SLs in the game"
" i sell 500 per week when i get them out of the factories, so i think theres more of you than you think."
"WHAT!? hmmm but the devs say were few in number!"
"when are you going to learn devs lie...."
"good point ill shut up now..."
soooo my question is to a dev whos EATING POPCORN,
When can we expect to see some data on a possible, slight, change in the SL profession making it a profession rather than a really cool title to have?
Talgoth_Do_Shon
Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:40 am
#12
nikko11 wrote:
Squad Leader/Doctor would be an interesting pure support class, eh?
Yes it is 
Being MSL/MD is one of the most intensive playstyles i know of. Keep 'em healed and Keep'em focused. If your gonna try it , stock up on the coffee/ritalian
Sylow
Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:49 am
#13
Talgoth_Do_Shon wrote:
nikko11 wrote:
Squad Leader/Doctor would be an interesting pure support class, eh?
Yes it is
Being MSL/MD is one of the most intensive playstyles i know of. Keep 'em healed and Keep'em focused. If your gonna try it , stock up on the coffee/ritalian
Can you -please- keep this in the appropriate threads? This discussion absolutely has no place in this thread, there are enough other threads discussing perfect support templates and so on.
Closer on the topic, i also would like to ask what happened here.
More communication within two days, than within weeks before. I very much hope you can keep it up, then we'd really have entered a new era and would get ahead greatly.
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