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Diorchas

Sat Dec 04, 2004 7:09 am

Ok. From what I can see there is no difference in the drop rate between REing level one and level ten parts. Viewing other threads and through my own experience the drop rate is somewhere around .5%/RE attempt. In other words, roughly 1:200 ratio where in 200 RE attempts you get one disk.

While this was great before the patch that introduced more "level appropriate loot", we now see vastly more high-level loot for REing than we did shortly after JtL launched. Add in the Chassis Broker buying RE parts and the loot well has dried up considerably for Shipwrights.

My suggestion is that Firespray frags drop not on a "per RE attempt" basis, but rather on a "per loot item" basis. While this would be no change at all for Level 1 loot, it would increase the chance of a frag drop as the levels increased.Each loot item used in an RE would have its own .5% chance to drop a frag. This would result in no less than a .5% chance (on Level 1 REs) and no more than a 5% chance (on level 10 REs).

If those drop rates are too high (I don't think they are, but just for the sake of argument), then tweak the "per item" rate a bit as the levels go up. .5% for Level 1, .475% for Level 2, .45% for Level 3, etc, all the way down to .25% for Level 10. That would result in a range of .5% drop rate (for level 1 REs) to 2.5% drop rate for Level 10 REs.

Thoughts?

/sign

Minirova

Sun Dec 05, 2004 4:08 am

#2

/sign

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Jagged-F3l

Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:52 am

#3

/disagree

Why do you want the Firespray to become commonplace? If you do this, it won't be worth anymore than any other master ship. Relax and have some fun with the game--it will come.

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Diorchas

Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:22 am

#4

You're making an assumption that I'm not having fun with the game and not relaxed, both of which are not true.

I enjoy being a shipwright, but with the new system where I have to share loot drops with the Chassis Vendor ("share" is a generous term... The well for parts has dried up drastically) and only lower level pilots get Lvl 1 and 2 loots with regularity, it means that the only people who will have a reasonable chance to get a Firespray blueprint are those with the support of a huge guild/City.

My character has been standing for the past three days right next to the Chassis Vendor announcing that he's buying loot for 50% higher than the loot vendor. In those three days do you know how many sales he's gotten? Three. And do you know how many times people have ignored him and sold to the Dealer? At least forty (no exaggeration). If I didn't have the support of my city I would be left RE'ing only those parts that I looted myself in space, and those will almost always be Levels 6-10.

The whole point is that it doesn't make sense for people to get the same chance REing a Lvl 1 part as it does 10 Lvl 10s. If there's a .5% chance for a single Lvl 1 there should be a .5% chance for each of the 10 Lvl 10s.

Zaax

Sun Dec 05, 2004 7:52 am

#5

Jagged-F3l wrote:

/disagree

Why do you want the Firespray to become commonplace? If you do this, it won't be worth anymore than any other master ship. Relax and have some fun with the game--it will come.

if the FS goes the way of RIS, its just plain stupid and a time and money sink.

its not fun to have to RE thousands of loot pieces to get a schematic. The FS should be not-common, but i do not think it should be super-rare, like RIS.

SW have been outcrafted by loot, outsold by dealers. All we have really is the fun of getting schematics through RE'ing. We are NOT like WS, so to compare to RIS is silly... (not that YOU did, but that seems to be the comparason)

I have RE'd everythign i can get my hands on, incl off bazzar to complete sets, (about 300 separate pices) with only a 3/8 to show for it.

if you think it shoudl be realy rare, it means you have a huge guild, or already have a schematic. And dont ask why i presume to know YOUR situation, when you presume to know others...

so i /sign. its the obvious thing to do.

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Brilyn

Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:01 am

#6

< Add in the Chassis Broker buying RE parts and the loot well has dried up considerably for Shipwrights. >

Possibly on your server, though I doubt it.

On starsider, I clear out the bazaar on a Galaxy-level 1-2 times a day, and end up with 100-150 pieces of salvage.

Personally, I think the Chassis Broker buying stuff is *great*. It gives me some way to recoup the cost of the RE1-3 pieces of junk that are unsellable.

Brilyn
Master Weaponsmith
Master Shipwright
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Secondary vendor on Talus, Kyu'mai: 250, -4680
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Dextrix

Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:17 am

#7

Sorry I dissagree as well...

I like it tough to get...

Dex Fay'Scatha

{Leader of Rua Dona }

\ Rua Ardan ~ Dantooine /

Jedi2k

Sun Dec 05, 2004 12:25 pm

#8

Well i have gotten 6 of the eight disks and 2 repeats since JTL launched so the drop is not bad if anyone on intrepid wants to trade 1 and 2 for a 4 and 8 tell me

Be glad that the process for re'ing loot is not what they had in Beta, in beta you had to have the exact same thing down to the name, at least now you only have to have the same type of item plus in beta they had a kit for each type of item boosters for boosters engines for engines at least their is the one general kitnow

trust me re'ing inlive is helluva lot better than in beta

Rillarri
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NadaZilch

Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:48 pm

#9

/disagree

I'm working on my 3rd set now, plz dont make these more common.

I pay 10k per looted componet and clear the Bazaar as often as posible. After paying 10 mil for loot and resources I sold the 1st 5 FireSprays for 12 mil each. Stillgives me 50 mil cred profit.

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Minirova

Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:51 pm

#10

But this way you don't have to always RE low lvl components, and it will encourage people to RE larger components. I think it should reward you if you use more components that are harder to find.

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Zaax

Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:16 pm

#11

NadaZilch wrote:

/disagree

I'm working on my 3rd set now, plz dont make these more common.

I pay 10k per looted componet and clear the Bazaar as often as posible. After paying 10 mil for loot and resources I sold the 1st 5 FireSprays for 12 mil each. Stillgives me 50 mil cred profit.

well u might be super rich. u might not want to keep the FS for your guild. i dunno.

all this petition wants , is to make EACH INDIVIDUAL COMPONENT give the same chance. makeing a lvl 8 RE with 8 componenets give 8 times the chance of a lvl one RE.

i kinda like collecting lvl 8 and 9 sets. i am not willing to play the "clear off the bazzar" game. why SHOULD I? profit is not my goal here, fun is. the fun of gettign a disk, teh fun of gettting sets, the fun of anticipation....

p ~~~ Your Life is in My Hands~~~ p
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elreyyyyy

Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:12 am

#12

I like it the way it is. But if you planning on auctioning any dont plan on getting much for them. I put 1 on auction that had 212k mas with 2838 hitpoints with a starting bid of 8mil buyout 15 mil. Didnt get one bid. So whats the deal. Unless you plan on giving them away to friends I see no reason to even try to get the disk!

Aci
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DingoBoi

Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:01 am

#13

Zaax wrote:

NadaZilch wrote:

/disagree

I'm working on my 3rd set now, plz dont make these more common.

I pay 10k per looted componet and clear the Bazaar as often as posible. After paying 10 mil for loot and resources I sold the 1st 5 FireSprays for 12 mil each. Stillgives me 50 mil cred profit.

well u might be super rich. u might not want to keep the FS for your guild. i dunno.

all this petition wants , is to make EACH INDIVIDUAL COMPONENT give the same chance. makeing a lvl 8 RE with 8 componenets give 8 times the chance of a lvl one RE.

i kinda like collecting lvl 8 and 9 sets. i am not willing to play the "clear off the bazzar" game. why SHOULD I? profit is not my goal here, fun is. the fun of gettign a disk, teh fun of gettting sets, the fun of anticipation....

bah.. quit yer biatching. What do you want? To be able to RE one item and get a fragment? Great that after eight fun attempts at RE'ing you'll have a funfilled set. Why not make it simple and just have you RE one item to get the whole schematic. But then hey, since it's only about fun why don't we just give you one since RE'ing is just toohard for you.Guess that's your idea of fun.

Sorry Charlie, something worth at sale 30-80 million should not be cheap or easy to obtain.

Have a nice day!

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