Shipwright Archive

The sky is falling!

If you read some of the stickies at the top of the forum, you'll see that this is an ongoing issue. On one hand, the devs have said they want to keep FS/Jeedai out of JTL, and on the other, they haven't given us a reason why you can't convert SW xp.

Arguments both for and against. Very vocal arguments.

because the Dev's love having people post with really big bold letters.

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dreddnot wrote:

I'm guessing Jeedai means Jedi? Anyway I could care less about getting a Jedi character, I just want FS Shipwright, since I love flying and I would like to hook myself and friends up with some great ship parts.

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I'm glad we dont get the FS grinders to pick up shipwright for FS xp, there are enough underpriced chassis for sale already without them.

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Shotter wrote:

I'm glad we dont get the FS grinders to pick up shipwright for FS xp, there are enough underpriced chassis for sale already without them.

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What's really funny is that, on Valcyn at least, the respec thing has pretty much killed the stocks of low-price chassis. All those respec'd master shipwrights didn't make 200 ships during their grind, so there's a huge hole.

I almost never got tells asking for a Y-Wing or whatever, now I get a couple per day.

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Shotter wrote:

I'm glad we dont get the FS grinders to pick up shipwright for FS xp, there are enough underpriced chassis for sale already without them.

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Do the math sometime. You'll find that grinding chassis to get to Jedi would have to just about be the dumbest thing a person could do. Even if Shipwrights got the same 35 to 1 exchange rate as Archs, you would need something like 660 million resources grinding master level ship chassis (inpractice mode, no less)just to complete the four FS crafting branches. It just isn't feasible, and even the richest player on your server would go broke trying to do it. Not to mention that if you're going for Jedi you really need combat bonuses, not crafting bonuses. Which is why we'll never have to worry about becoming the FS grinding FOTM profession.

There's absolutely no reason why Shipwrights shouldn't be able to trade in their xp for FS crafting xp.

Slim Vargo, Corbantis

Message Edited by EdOWar on 07-03-2005 07:31 PM

*throws a fire blanket on dreadnott*

I was always fine with it not being convertable, but after finally giving in and going out there to get the assembly/experimentation bonuses, I was very dismayed to find that really, my only viable option is to pick up one box of architect, park myself in front of Paemos, and grind Gungan head statues for an hour or three a day. Half my skill points are in shipwright and the other half are in smuggler, so I don't quite think it's worth it to grind through personal wind harvesters or whatever when my artisan xp cap is so low. It'd only take me, what.. 300 trips to the village to gain a line of crafting mastery at 4K xp/trip?

I'm guessing shipwright xp may not convert because we have to craft everything by hand (which ironically makes having crafting mastery many times more valuable to us than any other crafting profession), but between our already minimal xp:resource rate and a carefully considered xp:fsxp conversion rate, I'd think it'd be possible to find a way to make this fair to us as crafters without creating an unfairly fast or exploitative way for others to reach jedi.

The warning of chassis grinders saturating the market is a good objection to raise, but this is just how I'm looking at it from the perspective of a shipwright who wants to become a better shipwright through the available force sensitive skills.

Message Edited by TomoRainer on 07-03-2005 07:59 PM

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EdOWar wrote:

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Shotter wrote:

I'm glad we dont get the FS grinders to pick up shipwright for FS xp, there are enough underpriced chassis for sale already without them.

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Do the math sometime. You'll find that grinding chassis to get to Jedi would have to just about be the dumbest thing a person could do. Even if Shipwrights got the same 35 to 1 exchange rate as Archs, you would need something like 660 million resources grinding master level ship chassis (inpractice mode, no less)just to complete the four FS crafting branches. It just isn't feasible, and even the richest player on your server would go broke trying to do it. Not to mention that if you're going for Jedi you really need combat bonuses, not crafting bonuses. Which is why we'll never have to worry about becoming the FS grinding FOTM profession.

There's absolutely no reason why Shipwrights shouldn't be able to trade in their xp for FS crafting xp.

Slim Vargo, Corbantis

Message Edited by EdOWar on 07-03-2005 07:31 PM

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I know several jedi that used crafting lines to get to jedi, the exp and assembly bonus help to craft sabers anyway. And they could sell the chassis they make at prices as low as 0.5 cpu wich covers costs to dig it up from the ground yourself with ber 13's so they would never lose money with it, we would on the other hand because no other shipwright would be able to make a profit anymore from selling chassis.

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dreddnot wrote:

Good point though, grinding chassis to be Jedi is silly, a crafter Jedi, hah, prepare to get owned, lol.

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You dont even know what you're talking about, you can get3 trees in the crafting skills and stil be equil to any other jedi because only3 FS trees will help a jedi in becomign a better fighter and those are melee defense, melee speed and ranged defense.

The other crafting professions require more subcomponents to make the final object wich would make it to complicated to grind on, and because those other professions can make a schematic of everything their stuff will always be better since you would only make a schematic if you get an amazing succes on it.

Message Edited by Shotter on 07-04-2005 02:45 AM