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I agree. as SW's we dont need to monopolize 100% of the field in ship components. Let it stay 50/50. Stop demanding 100% superiority over all loot just cause your master.

Maybe nerfing loot even more than you already have got them to do would make many of you very happy but think of the people who aren't SW's and like to loot.

How is it fair to them if its nerfed even more where ALL space loot sux just so we can have monopolies over every type of component? Geez ppl. Share the wealth...

gimme my one star now plz /rolleyes

::shock::

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BlkHwkDwn wrote:

There are three topics that are absolutely driving me insane. Every time I sign on to teh SW forums there are usualy a slew of posts that were either started as or became a cry fest about: loot components, resource prices, and factory support. I am sick of it as these are largely minor problems if problems at all:

Resource Prices: LOOK AROUND. stop buying resources at 10 cpu, I have never, ever in my entire time playing this game payed more than 5cpu for any resource and I am also a WS. Since I became a SW I haven't paid more than 3 cpu, it barely affects exp anyway so why bother. Are some miners gouging, yes, so DON'T BUY FROM THEM. I have half a dozzen vendors just on Naboo i frequent where I can get everything I need for under 3cpu. I know this varies by server, but not this much, so that every server other than intrepid has absurd resource prices. Oh by the way mine your own steel, its what we use the most, mine it yourself and it costs abou .7 cpu.

do you play on every single server? No? Then shaddap about it. We do find vendors for cheaper and they get raped quick.

Loot parts: If they are so much better stop selling them to chassis dealers and SELL THEM YOURSLEF! I do about 1/4 of my business off of RE'd loot components. Only put stuff that is better than waht you can make and price it appropriately. An engine with teh speed of a mark 4 that is level 3 gets priced at the price of a mark 4. Best thing abotu doing this is that you don't have to actively restock these, when you RE sell the good stuff and dump the rest on the chassis dealer. Your customers won't expect you to be fully stocked with loot stuff, however they will come back periodically to check to see what you added.

What about the guy who isnt a shipwright who gets an awesome engine we cant even begin to compete. In case your wondering that is about 70% of the community looting. Oh yah I guess you didnt think about that.

And we do sell the good parts ourselves and not too chassis dealers. Momma dropped you alot didnt she?

Factory support: ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN! Our corrospondent's poll showed that the majority of us don't even want it, something I agree with. If your selling to much, two things to remember, your making a crapload of money. Secondly, if you really want to sell less raise your prices.

Yah thats what they said about wookies getting armor, the FS Path never being revealed, and about 1000 other things in this game that were later changed. Never going to happen. But they did happen didnt they? And it all starts with just a few small voices.

This profession rocks, leave it the way it is.

Ok I'm done.

/Flame on

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Tyranus

> What about the guy who isnt a shipwright who gets an awesome engine we cant even begin to compete.

thats why charge a lot to RE things, which he'll eventually want RE'd.

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BlkHwkDwn wrote:

There are three topics that are absolutely driving me insane. Every time I sign on to teh SW forums there are usualy a slew of posts that were either started as or became a cry fest about: loot components, resource prices, and factory support. I am sick of it as these are largely minor problems if problems at all:

Resource Prices: LOOK AROUND. stop buying resources at 10 cpu, I have never, ever in my entire time playing this game payed more than 5cpu for any resource and I am also a WS. Since I became a SW I haven't paid more than 3 cpu, it barely affects exp anyway so why bother. Are some miners gouging, yes, so DON'T BUY FROM THEM. I have half a dozzen vendors just on Naboo i frequent where I can get everything I need for under 3cpu. I know this varies by server, but not this much, so that every server other than intrepid has absurd resource prices. Oh by the way mine your own steel, its what we use the most, mine it yourself and it costs abou .7 cpu.

do you know how HARD it is to find those cheap resources? EVERYONE gouges. we also only get 10 lots at about 8k of the resource a day per miner on a good spawn. and if you HAVENT BEEN TO EVERY SERVER THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THIS!!!! those cheap vendors get stripped fast theres almost no way to keep up.

Loot parts: If they are so much better stop selling them to chassis dealers and SELL THEM YOURSLEF! I do about 1/4 of my business off of RE'd loot components. Only put stuff that is better than waht you can make and price it appropriately. An engine with teh speed of a mark 4 that is level 3 gets priced at the price of a mark 4. Best thing abotu doing this is that you don't have to actively restock these, when you RE sell the good stuff and dump the rest on the chassis dealer. Your customers won't expect you to be fully stocked with loot stuff, however they will come back periodically to check to see what you added.

the only thing is no one wants to buy those RE'd components unless its the same price or cheaper than what the NPC will pay!

Factory support: ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN! Our corrospondent's poll showed that the majority of us don't even want it, something I agree with. If your selling to much, two things to remember, your making a crapload of money. Secondly, if you really want to sell less raise your prices.

HA! HAHA! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAA!!! i agree with the guy who did this with the red text. theyve said this about ALOT of things..look at them LOL.

This profession rocks, leave it the way it is.

Ok I'm done.

/Flame on

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I agree with the original poster. I'm a fulltime pilot dabbling my way up Shipwright and haven't had any problem with resources, either buying them or... GASP! getting them myself (it's painful, I know, but I'm sure you can figure it out. And if you can't imagine taking it at a normal pace, try getting a lot exchange with a SWr from another server). The loot components are sometimes too good, but for the most part I use crafted stuff in my ship because a) degradation doesn't matter and b) most of it is just better: armour, weapons, and shields are all better hands-down except the reward blaster; my crafted boosters are competitive with all but the rarest loots, and even the engines are useable now and better than the average loot (though the frequency of good engine drops seems higher than other components. The crafted reactors are ho-hum but I use them anyway because I don't feel bad running a reactor overload program on them... the same goes for all crafted overload components. Only the crafted capacitors remain a total waste of space, and given the number of other things a shipwright can make I don't see how that's a game-breaking problem [much as I'd like to see it fixed].

As for factories, I personally think it would be incredibly retarded to purchase a crate of 10 ship chassis. Maybe that's just me. The only way I'd support factories is if they followed on a suggestion I saw before and made all factory-crafted major components some 15-25% worse than the hand-crafted one, so that cheap low-quality mass-produced stuff and high-end hand-tuned equipment would be in a different ballpark.

As a pilot, I find the loot-hunting both in space and on the ground looking for RE'd stuff is one of the most fun parts of JtL. Reading these forums makes me worry that the Devs are going to listen to the whingers and make decent loot unheard of, so that we will all use shipwright components all the time. Personally I like the 60/40 shipwright/loot ratio we have right now.

Message Edited by Areli on 11-26-2004 01:12 PM