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Thread: Firespray disk hunting tips
PetaByte32 wrote:
fatgato wrote:
PetaByte32 wrote:
fatgato wrote:
Dont bother arguing with him , he never lets thing go even if he is proven wrong , then resorts to flames and name calling. He loves to try to use facts , which are unproven.
Hmmmm. *checks cage to see if he rattled it* Nope I didnt rattle the cage. *Tosses a banana in* there you go monkey boy. Now go back to the counterstrike erm jedi forums where you belong.
Actually since I havent gone to any of your threads in the other forums to post harrassing messages to you then it is someone elsewho cant let something go. I wonder who that could be?
Tyranus
I am not following you around , I posted this long before my comment on the other thread read the time moron. I am a shipwright I have 3 complete schematics for firespray and bunch multiples. There no pattern , no voodoo , I didnt keep parts in my inventory, I didnt spin around in a circle 3 times before I RE'd it I went and just RE alot of stuff. So dont think I am following you around I am agreeing with other gentleman that you cannot take deal with the factyou dont have a case. I sat for 3 hours at the bazaar Reing and got parts.
The fact I have built and sold 2 Firespray so far , just from SW alone , I have made 112 million credits I think I am very successful SW. I have made a good name for myself and I spend time with my customers who have alwayss come back . I can careless what you think about me or IF i am posting in your thread OMG...... or even if you 1 star me since well unlike you I dont care about the star system.
Message Edited by fatgato on 11-09-2004 12:51 AM
Well first I could care less about you. If you hate me or my posts so much why torture yourself? I cant let something go? You obviously cant let something as its like your going out of your way to annoy me. Not to mention you supposedly read all my past posts? Wow thats really not letting something go there. Want some addresses for good therapists in your area?
Second I have 3 schems too. I also have enough doubles for 3 more with 3 more 6/8 and follow that with another 4 more when I have four 3/8 and four 6/8 again.
Since you brought up money I will also. I believe we are up too 500 mill or close to it.
Third and this will be surprising to you and others. But if you dont flame me I wont flame you. If you were serious about checking my past posts then you will notice that I only get upset and flame people after (I repeat "after") they flame me. And in fact if people talk and not insult me to get their views acrossI have been, more times then naught, easy to change my mind if they were right. But if you think I am going to change my mind about a certain topicbecause a Llama monkey boy like you or marzuk flamed me? Wow your dumber then I thought. And quite naive.
Its a concept I am sure someone like you and sizzlechest arent familiar with. Its called a discussion. In a discussion, people talk calmly and share their views. Maybe one orsome change their views. You need to go back and get some social skills.
I read your post history also. Everytime anyone even nicely says they disagree with you, you quickly start insulting them. Really sad. Ever think to be nice? Oh wait. You cant. The shock of being nice might kill you.
Bye.
Tyranus
fatgato wrote:
You have a HABIT of blowing up and then resorting to name calling after some disagrees with your point of view, Calmly? Look at the snide comment you made early in the thread, the I got Schematic and you dont nyah mentality. Look at the Posts in the jedi forum about FIXING them when some says they dont agree about what you posted on you go and explode , you can never let something go , you always think that your point of view is the only point of view.
Ummm sure no I dont go out and insult people all the time, sure I do not like alot of BH and more than happy to laugh at many of them. I admit the fact I love it when a BH bites it , but I NEVER am rude to them in game , I tell them good fight and such , now if they go and cop and attitude np /ignore. If I die to a BH , I will tell them it was good fight next time I will get them.
Thing is you have your head so firmly shoved up your rectum that you cannot see that , your not always right your point of view isnt the only one. So get off your soapbox and deal with it , because the thing is you arent always right, heck I know I am not always right. I at least admit it , you on the other hand cannot accept that fact.
Well 'nuff said
I love how you lie on people. Its just so bold. Your about the biggest hypocrite in the world. You tell me I wont let something go yet you want the last word so bad you wont shut up. Your a waste of forum space imo. Offering neither witty banter or decent conversation. Your a flamethrower and nothing more.
Since getting the last word in is so important to youI will let you. Go ahead and type yet another flamefilled response as I know you will and I will from here on out ignore you. This way you get the last word in and I will be rid of you as I will no longer see your posts.
And for the last and final time, I only blow up and resort to name calling (if its so bad how come you do it so often?) when someone flames me first. When someone offers a clear non-flamed post I have a nice conversation without flames. When the person acts much likethe counterstrike player, you act as, then I go down totheir level so as to be fair. It seems to be all you littlescript kiddies can relate too. Since your having such a hard time understanding this I strongly suggest you get someone with an education above the 6th grade to help you to understand this. Just get the kid to read this paragraph and explain it to you. Ok skippy?
Now get your last word in and we will consider this rivalry you started at an end clear? You dont reply to anymore of my posts and I wont ever reply to any of yours in the future ok? Its called a compromise. If your such a big man then I am sure you can accept this proposal. Live is a chess game, sport. This is a critical move. What you do next will show beyond a doubt what your truly about.
Tyranus
PetaByte32 wrote:
Marzuk147 wrote:
Just a bunch of crap from someone who does not understand probability.
Want firespray parts? RE lots of stuff, nuff said.
I am not talking about probability. I am talking about chaos.
Case in point. Since my last post, in this thread,I have found5 disks. All5 were disk 2/8. Random? Look at the odds. First of getting5 disks. Then of getting all5 disks the same. Lets focus on getting5 disks all the same. Each chance is 1 in 8. But as you go on the odds change to getting the same disk. Like rolling an 8 sided dice 5 times and getting all "2"s. I would love for someone do the math on this to figure the exact odds of this. I think that last disk being 2/8 was somewhere around 30,000 to 1 odds.
If I am not wrong the odds to get only 5 discs and all are number 2 - when the chances to get 1-8 are all the same would be: 1 : 17.000.000
And my experience with swg tells me that the random loot table does not work well. I have got 32 color crystals, 17 of them I got in 3h, the others in 4 weeks. And so far I only got 2 blue rug adhesives but I got them within 10 minutes.
The best tip someone can give is, if you start to loot something good, dont stop doing missions, or fighting if you can.
I know that it is not hard to code, but who knows what the devs coded. The random thing is not working very random, it has to do with time or some other variables, know one knows which variables, but I would consider it as proved that if the variables are with you, you get better loot. I have heard this from friends and experienced self. You can have weeks with no loot and then a few hours with clothing attachments and other things, and then again silence. Maybe everyone is wrong, but this happens to a lot of ppl.
Marzuk147 wrote:
All of your statements are based on coincidental occurances, and you have really no information to back any of it up, and it all sounds like pure garbage.
Here let me help you:
if x < .005 then firespray_schem = yes
Thats about all the devs have to do to code this using a random method. Are you honestly going to tell me, that with the amount of debugging devs have to do, that it is programmed to interact with what you have in your inventory, how much of it is there, how many specific parts you already have ect? I think not. Its highly Illogical.
- The threads int Smugler Forum about ways to get better slicing and how its not random.
- "If you stand facing 239 degrees, in Hot pink hot pants (not pink ones has to be Hot pink), use 99.99% laser knifes-AUKs-Clamp, at precisly the moment the sun comes up, you WILL get a 45% encumb slice. And thats a fact jack" BULLSHOT!!
- The BETA threads For and Against factorys. a couple of ppl doing non stop fights about a fact that is set in stone
- Getting Firespray schematics is random, face it and deal with it
- We have all the factory support we will get, face it and deal with it
RagNoRock5x wrote:
This thread reminds me of 2 things.
- The threads int Smugler Forum about ways to get better slicing and how its not random.
- "If you stand facing 239 degrees, in Hot pink hot pants (not pink ones has to be Hot pink), use 99.99% laser knifes-AUKs-Clamp, at precisly the moment the sun comes up, you WILL get a 45% encumb slice. And thats a fact jack" BULLSHOT!!
- The BETA threads For and Against factorys. a couple of ppl doing non stop fights about a fact that is set in stone
- Getting Firespray schematics is random, face it and deal with it
- We have all the factory support we will get, face it and deal with it
On factory support? We have all we will get right? Because the DEVs said so? Hmmm. I remember when Wookies werent going to get armor ever. I remember when jedi were going to be rare. I remember when the FS path would never be revealed. First rule of dealing with SOE here. Never ever assume something is set in stone.
Getting a firespray schematic is random? I believe there is a random generator working in it also. But I also believe there are variables added in. If there is one generator to rule them all and crafters can reset their fail/succeed chances by logging or loading then in fact there are variables.
Tyranus
Anyway, here's a link if you really want to know about random number generators (which I suspect you don't, but whatever.)
http://random.mat.sbg.ac.at/generators/
I especially like this quote:
Every RNG has its deficiencies. No RNG is appropriate for all tasks. For example, several good RNGs from the toolbox of stochastic simulation are unsuited for cryptographical applications, because they produce predictable output streams.
As a software developer who's done this stuff, there are plenty of mistakes the devs could've made that would lead to patterns, even if they're using the least predictable generators. It's just so easy to fall into those traps when you're doing threaded applications.
Albert Einstein won a Nobel prize for showing that Brownian Motion, the apparent random movements of dust and other small particles, was actually due to photon impacts. Prior to that most people thought "it's just random."
all three components were of the type Kryat with the exactly same name and level (sure the same level
)..so maybe that could make it easier to find those disks.
cheers
Exi
Smerk wrote:
As a software developer who's done this stuff, there are plenty of mistakes the devs could've made that would lead to patterns, even if they're using the least predictable generators. It's just so easy to fall into those traps when you're doing threaded applications.
Smerk wrote:
Albert Einstein won a Nobel prize for showing that Brownian Motion, the apparent random movements of dust and other small particles, was actually due to photon impacts. Prior to that most people thought "it's just random."
some of us that work in the real world with computers in the Information systems field kinda DO know about such things. and for all intents and purposes they are random. as for grammer and spelling pfft. im at work and have little time in between calls to fully flesh out my paragraphs as i would have them appear. but if it offends a grammer nazi now and then so what, i could care less.
as for einstein and your quoting his research it doesnt matter if someone waves their hand throught he air and the mdust moves about the actual movements of said dust whether its caused by wind or light photons does detract from the fact that by no NORMAL means are those movements in the slightest way preditcable hence the random nature of their movements.
it is far easier to accept things at face value rather than looking into reality. it is easy to read things into an equation and nitpick.
no one is debating the fact that if you have a sample of RE results tied to time stamps that it would fill computer banks the size of alaska that RE attempts couldnt be predictable. but for our purposes, on our level of mental power, and database storage, on our personal computers the dropping of kuat loot pieces is totally and forever a random event. saying otherwise is denial of reality with nothing more than a desire to nitpick at things.