Shipwright Archive
Thread: Dear Shipwrights, please stop blindly REing components in pursuit of an outdated and outmoded ship.
Starstrider6 wrote:
Oh wait, you're the be-all and end-all when it comes to RE knowledge, the self-proclaimed RE guru.
You have to love people that have all rights and no responsibilty.
Cyd Outlander
FLMOPE wrote:You have to love people that have all rights and no responsibilty.
Cyd Outlander
No, no one's just ever shown what 8 straight months of saving loot for a masterful whole-ship rebuild can do.
So you all soon will.
KaylBreinhar wrote:
No, no one's just ever shown what 8 straight months of saving loot for a masterful whole-ship rebuild can do.
I dont know everything about space loot (as Im not MSW yet) but I like to think I know a very fair amount as I own a couple of the best loot parts on my server and Ive been spacing for quite some time. My style fits a HeavyX, B-wing, and Nova Courrier best for the various things I do up there (not into those tiny PvP ships till dogfights can last more than a 3 runs in a short game of "Chicken") but I would think the best way to go about getting the firespray disks would be to keep everything RE4 and above for crafting/selling/trading. I have yet to use anything RE5 or below as an Ace pilot as you can usually get RE5/6 parts light enough to really deck out even a low mass ship. RE3 and below you will have to get really lucky loot to make it worthwhile for an Ace that prefers 150K+mass ships. So just go up above corellia, head to the nearest opposing factional starbase and blow everything you see out of the sky. When your inventory is full, land, give your parts a lookover to see if you got lucky (probably not), RE everything while you stand right in front of that chassis dealer and sell it to him when you are finished. As an Ace pilot in tier 1 territory you shouldnt have any problems filling your inventory AND backpack with crap loot that nobody wants anyway in about 2 hours or lessif you happen to find a rapid respawn area. You might even help some noobs out and set aside a vendor for RE'd junk parts and sell everything for 500 creds. Noobs can buy it from you and go sell it to the chassis dealer for at least twice that, you get merchant XP (if you need it) or they can replace some other crap part on their crap ship lol. At least it wouldnt be a complete waist. If you like those JSF type ships it might be a different story but then again if you are good at flying those then you should probably already know what you need to do.
Thunderbyte wrote:
Wow, that's harsh man. I know Kayl's a little rough around the edges, but I don't think this response was neccessary either. Personally I think that Kayl's original post was more constructive than the hundreds I've read of people asking for Chassis Vendors to no longer be able to buy loot. I mean if people were just throwing away junk then there would be no cry from shipwrights, but because people can sell great items for dirt cheap everyone has a problem with that.
Well now you have people throwing away good loot for another cause, but it's not money this time. All Kayl is saying is that those parts could be better spent. Different from the other example is that Kayl is not asking for anything in the game to be changed, but for people to take the time and see when they have a gem in thier pile of junk. Heck, I don't have a problem with people pointing out to me that I have something great that I thought was junk, I thank them and go sell it for MONEY!!!!
You people need girlfriends or something, lol.
Message Edited by Thunderbyte on 09-08-2005 08:54 PM
ShaiLyn wrote:
I think the sticking issue here is that you are trying to tell people what to do with their loot. It's not your loot. If it's my loot, I'll do with it as I please. You are the equivalent of a master tailor who only makes blue hawt pants having a tizzy when you see people wasting hides/syncloth/whatever by making red hawtpants.
The answer to your problem is that Pre-RE loot needs to be separated from Post-RE loot on the bazaar. That way, folks who overreact to poorly Rengineered components don't have to see them and KSE hunters don't have to wade through stuff that won't help them.
Wow. That last paragraph just turned this thread into a constructive one. lol
You'll have to excuse me, but who are you (or any other player) to tell any player how to do anything. Whether it be using hides/synthcloth/whatever for making red hawtpants or blindly RE'ing looted ship components in the ever elusive hunt for Firespray disks? Did someone die and leave you boss? I think not.
Whereas it is the right of every facist and communist to voice their opinions here, don't expect players to blindly take your advice, or even like it for that matter.
Thunderbyte wrote:
Starstrider6 wrote:
KaylBreinhar wrote:
/raiseEyebrow
I have fanbois? News to me.
Also, I've tried being diplomatic before - it didn't work. Being an ass seems to get more people's attention, and be it positive or negative, attention is attention.
As others have said, I have no problem with SWs wasting the vast majority of loot on REs for discs, as the vast majority of loot sucks. I have a problem with the ones that take a "1 in 1000" part and pitch it away on a "1 in 1000" chance.
Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 09-08-2005 06:06 PM
What does it matter to you? Oh wait, you're the be-all and end-all when it comes to RE knowledge, the self-proclaimed RE guru.
Gimme a break.
If you feel so neglected that you have to troll to get attention, do the rest of us a favor and get a dog. As others have mentioned, what players want to do with their loot is their business, and all you're doing is trolling for reactions. You're not telling any decent SW what they don't already know, and it's a slim chance your target audience will read what you have to scream at them and even if they do, they'll ignore you for being the petulant brat you are.
Do you *really* think a Master Shipwright on Chimaera (like myself for instance) give's a rat's ass what you have to say over there on Eclipse? Take your "Listen to Kayl he's right" fanboi/Amen Corner Crew and let them worship you elsewhere.
Wow, that's harsh man. I know Kayl's a little rough around the edges, but I don't think this response was neccessary either. Personally I think that Kayl's original post was more constructive than the hundreds I've read of people asking for Chassis Vendors to no longer be able to buy loot. I mean if people were just throwing away junk then there would be no cry from shipwrights, but because people can sell great items for dirt cheap everyone has a problem with that.
Well now you have people throwing away good loot for another cause, but it's not money this time. All Kayl is saying is that those parts could be better spent. Different from the other example is that Kayl is not asking for anything in the game to be changed, but for people to take the time and see when they have a gem in thier pile of junk. Heck, I don't have a problem with people pointing out to me that I have something great that I thought was junk, I thank them and go sell it for MONEY!!!!
You people need girlfriends or something, lol.
Message Edited by Thunderbyte on 09-08-2005 08:54 PM
MIght be a bit harsh, but understand the perspective of those of us that just plain don't like players coming in here and telling us how it should be done.
First, let's try to keep in perspective that this is merely a game. Personally, I play SWG to have fun. Where is the fun in having some facist jerkoff tell us how we should be having fun?
Second, there are principles involved here fundamental to humankind. I suggest that people that want to impose there views on others find a country that supports that kind of behavior and move there, and subsequently leave us all alone.
Jagged-F3l wrote:
Paladon wrote:
Jagged-F3l wrote:
I don't agree with your claim that the Firespray is a "bad" ship.
...What claim?
You're using quotation marks and noone in the thread to that point even posted the word "bad". Where washis claim?
You misinterpret my use of quotation marks. It was merely to encapsulate your original sentiment concerning the Firespray, and I quote,
QUIT BLINDLY WASTING RE PARTS IN PURSUIT OF A SHIP THAT NO LONGER FITS INTO THE REALISTIC STRATEGIC MAKEUP OF JTL. THE KSE HAD IT'S DAY, AND IT ENDED WHEN THE M22-T WAS INTRODUCED.
I interpretted this as "bad".
Paladon wrote:
From my perspective, sure, it's a waste and it DOES hit me in the gut when I see some of these atrocities, but on TOP of that: Would they have done that if they KNEW what they were doing? I highly doubt it. A lot of this is not about FORCING anyone,or attacking them; it's about education, letting them know the value of things.
If they don't take me up on my offer, so be it...not much I can do about that and at least I tried, but I hope they remember my words to them when they see my ships in action...hehehe.
Jagged-F3l wrote:
ShaiLyn wrote:
I think the sticking issue here is that you are trying to tell people what to do with their loot. It's not your loot. If it's my loot, I'll do with it as I please. You are the equivalent of a master tailor who only makes blue hawt pants having a tizzy when you see people wasting hides/syncloth/whatever by making red hawtpants.
The answer to your problem is that Pre-RE loot needs to be separated from Post-RE loot on the bazaar. That way, folks who overreact to poorly Rengineered components don't have to see them and KSE hunters don't have to wade through stuff that won't help them.
Wow. That last paragraph just turned this thread into a constructive one. lol
You'll have to excuse me, but who are you (or any other player) to tell any player how to do anything. Whether it be using hides/synthcloth/whatever for making red hawtpants or blindly RE'ing looted ship components in the ever elusive hunt for Firespray disks? Did someone die and leave you boss? I think not.
Whereas it is the right of every facist and communist to voice their opinions here, don't expect players to blindly take your advice, or even like it for that matter.