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Thread: POB Firespray??

lostswede
Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:34 am
#14

Hmm if i read this right should a firespray also got 2 turrets and 1 cannon in the front the front gun is standard a tractorbeam and the turret guns are blaster cannons those changes and make it pob would make it a more combat capable POB then the YT, Nova or deciminator and it gets a purpoose. 1 gun for the pilto and 2 guns for the passangers/crew.


ps i stole the facts of weapon emplacements from the pen and paper D20 rpg.


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Haerb
Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:46 pm
#15

What if the Firespray were upgraded to POB, kept its current combat settings, but allowed only enough mass for 1-3 POB Elite parts, instead of an entire ship full? Just a thought.



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Supermite
Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:44 am
#16

The firespray in game is different than the one Boba used. It is a modified version of the original. The ingame firesprays are meant to be one person starfighters.



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EEMAN
Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:28 am
#17



TheLoneWolf wrote:

Ok straight from WoTC's Mouth (They have the SW RPG License from LA and well have a lot more knowledge of ships than SoE does sadly. (No offense to SoE but fact is fact)

Kuat Systems Engineering Firespray-31 Patrol and Attack Craft

Page 230 of the SW RPG D20 Revised Core Rule Book

Class: SPACE TRANSPORT

Crew: 1

Size: Small (21.5m Long)

Passengers: 6

Cargo Capacity: 70 tons

Slave one has slightly upgrade shields, drastically upgraded Hyperdrive, and a few more weapons. Other than that. They are the same. Oh and a slightly upgraded engine (providing faster speed only)

Corellian Engineering Corporation YT-1300 Transport

Page 230 of the SW RPG D20 Revised Core Rule Book

Class Space Transport

Crew: 1 to 2

Size: Small (26.7m Long)

Passengers: 6

Cargo Capacity: 100 tons

Again differences between stock and Millennium Falcon?

Crew: 2 or 4 (so increase in crew needed)

Hyperdrive

Engine Speed

Shields

Hull

Weapons.

So as you can see YES the Firespray should be a PoB ship. It is not a Starfighter but a Transport just like the YT-1300 and darn near the same size.




yea its pretty close to the same size. I have the Fine Molds model in the box waiting on me to finish adding battle damage to the millenium falcon model. They are both 1/72nd scale and the slave1 is damn near the same size. For those of you not familiar with Fine Molds they are out of japan, you can get their product from hobbylink japan http://www.hlj.com. Unlike the AMT/ERTL crap released here that bears little to no resemblance to accuracy, Fine Molds actually gets to go to Skywalker Ranch and take several hundred pictures of the actual models made by industrial light and magic, so the accuracy is astonishing.



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Crillan
Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:41 am
#18

One reason why the Firespray compares in size to the YT-1300 is because our YT-1300 is much smaller than it should be. If you compare our ship's interior layout to the official layout of the Millenium Falcon, ours is much smaller. I know the Falcon's interior isn't the standard layout but in general, the ship is much larger than our in game ship.



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Jagged-F3l
Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:42 am
#19






Velneth wrote:
Because all POB ships have Turrets. No point having multiplayer ships without turrets.




That's a very excellent point--never thought of it myself.



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lostswede
Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:03 am
#20






Velneth wrote:
Because all POB ships have Turrets. No point having multiplayer ships without turrets.





Yes but the stats on an unmodified firespray shows it has 2 blaster cannons in turrets that is 2 separate turrets and it also has a tractorbeam in forward gun emplecements and that is where the 2 guns on it in game are now. The turrets are in the bottom if the firespray is standing up in normal flight patern.


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Jagged-F3l
Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:13 am
#21






lostswede wrote:





Velneth wrote:
Because all POB ships have Turrets. No point having multiplayer ships without turrets.





Yes but the stats on an unmodified firespray shows it has 2 blaster cannons in turrets that is 2 separate turrets and it also has a tractorbeam in forward gun emplecements and that is where the 2 guns on it in game are now. The turrets are in the bottom if the firespray is standing up in normal flight patern.


Fein out








Not having much experience with the Firespray, I consulted my ship database and low-and-behold it does have two turrets. So, let me think about this a bit...


...If I remember back a year ago when I was beta testing JTL, the Firespray was something promised to us by Thunderheart. However, just before JTL went live, Thunderheart indicated that he wanted to do something special with the Firespray. This "surprise" turned out to be the disk drops from RE'ing. We didn't have the Firespray to play with in beta (to my recollection). However, it showed up as a surprise. Leads me to believe that it was one of those last minute stretch goals, which means that making the Firespray a POB was tossed just so that we could have it at all.





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IL-Vec
Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:45 pm
#22






Velneth wrote:
Because all POB ships have Turrets. No point having multiplayer ships without turrets.





Your yacht has a turret??



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IL-Vec
Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:46 pm
#23






Bronski113 wrote:
I'd say no to having it be able to equip the pob parts since it still flies like a fighter. However it would be neat to have the ability to walk around in it.




I'd say give it an experimental mass range of say 750k-1mil to allow 2-3 POB parts but not a full complement



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EEMAN
Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:46 pm
#24



IL-Vec wrote:


Velneth wrote:
Because all POB ships have Turrets. No point having multiplayer ships without turrets.


Your yacht has a turret??



doesnt yours?



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TheChipmunkSlayer
Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:04 am
#25






IL-Vec wrote:





Bronski113 wrote:
I'd say no to having it be able to equip the pob parts since it still flies like a fighter. However it would be neat to have the ability to walk around in it.




I'd say give it an experimental mass range of say 750k-1mil to allow 2-3 POB parts but not a full complement




I'd say leave everything on it alone, just give it an interior (be it a smaller one than the other POB ships), and the ability to do repairs from inside the ship via access panels.





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