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Thread: Dear Shipwrights, please stop blindly REing components in pursuit of an outdated and outmoded ship.

KaylBreinhar
Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:18 am
#1

This is in response to gildrak's comment in this thread in which he says:

"The more you re the closer you get to a disk. So my advice would be to re everything and if it is still junk then sell it to the dealer."

In my infamous REing thread, linked below in my sig, I post REing atrocities perpetrated by shipwrights of my OWN server who fail to exercise due diligence in pursuit of KSE discs. This has stopped some, but more and more crappy parts are listed almost daily.

Now, some of you may say: "How dare you call the Firespray outdated and outmoded! It's our only real content!"

And to that I respond - "open your eyes."

The KSE is 213k MAX mass, 2P/2M. Back BEFORE the M22-T, this was highly respectable, and also a decent ship for Freelancers.

NOW, and this is MY opinion, the only faction that even has ANY business buying the Firespray whatsoever for functional (not even mentioning decorative) purposes is an Imperial factional pilot, as the Oppressor only tops out around 172-173k masswise - the extra 40k on the KSE would allow for someone to slap heavier L10s on if they weren't as proficient in looting them.

Simply put:

QUIT BLINDLY WASTING RE PARTS IN PURSUIT OF A SHIP THAT NO LONGER FITS INTO THE REALISTIC STRATEGIC MAKEUP OF JTL. THE KSE HAD IT'S DAY, AND IT ENDED WHEN THE M22-T WAS INTRODUCED.

Some of you are taking the only real "Exceptional" loots left and tossing them away for a 1:1000 chance at getting a fragment to a schematic to a ship that most people aren't even interested in anymore.



Death doesn't fly a JSF anymore...he flies a Gallente Thorax in EVE Online
CommTampers
Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:25 am
#2

L1 and L2 loot is the only stuff worth farming for a KSE disk anyway. I hate it when I find post RE stuff on the bazar; most of it is a crap job.



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Bronski113
Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:50 am
#3

My suggestion is to let people do what they want with their time in game. I personally want a Firespray. I have 2 master pilots, one freelance and one imperial. Both have what some would consider the best ships out there, the grevious fighter and the JSF. But do I fly them? No, simply because they don't fit my style. Plus I'm really not a fan of either of them.

I also own a Krayt for my freelancer. I use it for mining. In all honesty i enjoy flying my dunelizard much more than the Krayt. Actually at the moment i'm flying either my Arc170 or Vaksai with my Freelancer.

When I get the firespray I'll fly that as well. One advantage it has over the other freelance ships is the abilty to hold 2 ordnance slots.



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KaylBreinhar
Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:50 pm
#4

When it comes to space loot, I DO know everything.



Death doesn't fly a JSF anymore...he flies a Gallente Thorax in EVE Online
Ciediwo
Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:10 pm
#5






KaylBreinhar wrote:
When it comes to space loot, I DO know everything.




And the funny thing is, is that not only do you know everything about the loot, your not even a SW. I have read your post, and yes it was all in one sitting. It was very informative, and right to the point, and even a little easy to understand, even for a dork like me.




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KaylBreinhar
Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:11 pm
#6


CommTampers wrote:
L1 and L2 loot is the only stuff worth farming for a KSE disk anyway. I hate it when I find post RE stuff on the bazar; most of it is a crap job.



Thank you for actually getting the point of this post. People are obviously taking this as a direct flame, missing the word "BLINDLY."

This isn't an indictment against REing for discs, it's an indictment of wasting stuff without even LOOKING at it first just because you HAVE it.

Think of it this way - 500k+ for a stellar loot part'll buy a LOT of L1/RE1 crap on the bazaar, and FAR more chances toward a disc than doing something like:

This, or this, or definitely this...

This too...
Getting the point yet?
Just in case...

Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 09-05-2005 05:14 PM



Death doesn't fly a JSF anymore...he flies a Gallente Thorax in EVE Online
ShaiLyn
Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:01 pm
#7

Kayl, try to understand that your priorities are not necessarily everybody elses priorities. I'm with you on the blindly throwing away good RE parts, but only because I look for good stuff to RE myself. However, if getting another firespray suddenly became more important to me than looking for good RE parts, then I'll throw away whatever I want whenever I want. Blindly or otherwise.It sucks that people throw away good stuff to the chassis dealer, but that's their choice.





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kdo
Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:30 pm
#8


Ok i buy space loot on corbantis and ive seen many people waste parts.


Im a very very rich shipwright so ive made many people rich,


i offer atleast 2 mil per space part that i find useful. I will offer up to 20 mil per part depending on exceptional stats!


So the point of my story is...... DONT WASTE LOOT.


Find some rich b@stard like me on your server and get him to look over your loot, you could be rich !


By the way if your on corbantis and you have space loot, email Me in game (ign kdo) and ill send oyu a lsit of stats on parts that i want !!!


Remember millions !!!!



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It is Right Outside Naboo Theed at -5862, 3111

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gildrak
Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:53 pm
#9


you failed to include what I was responding to. The guy wanted to know if he should bother reing low lvl stuff or just dump it on the chassis dealer. My suggestion why not re it and then sell it to the dealer, that way he at least gets a chance at a disk.


I have made alot of money both with good re parts and firesprays and do not waste parts blindly. But the poster was asking about junk parts that he was just getting rid of at the dealer not the bazaar.






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Sar-larid
Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:56 pm
#10






KaylBreinhar wrote:

This, or this, or definitely this...




Not terribly impressed...







KaylBreinhar wrote:

Just in case...



Aw, whatever...









KaylBreinhar wrote:

This too...
Getting the point yet?





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Can we get player bounties on shipwrights like that?







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none shall escape the pursuit of the hunter.
zarko669
Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:00 pm
#11


LOL!! So you know everything about space loot do you. Well you seem to be forgetting that the only loot that you have any control over is the stuff that is in your possession. Mind your own damn business and stop trying to push your viewpoints on other players. Ifplayer X on yourserver wants to RE 10 Starmap quest engines together to try to get a Firespray disc, that'sTHEIR business, not yours. Getting your panties in a bind over something like this is simply juvenile.


Fuu
ShaiLyn
Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:11 am
#12






KaylBreinhar wrote:

QUIT BLINDLY WASTING RE PARTS IN PURSUIT OF A SHIP THAT NO LONGER FITS INTO THE REALISTIC STRATEGIC MAKEUP OF JTL. THE KSE HAD IT'S DAY, AND IT ENDED WHEN THE M22-T WAS INTRODUCED.






Either that, or do whatever you want to do.


Gotta love it when someone masters a profession, thinks they know everything, and then starts telling people how to play the game.





Starsider
Xova Qiin - Nightsister Outcast

Corbantis
Silhouette - Twi'lek Shipwright

Kettemoor
Kiamata - Imperial Pilot

...has mastered the Pilot profession
Jagged-F3l
Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:53 am
#13






KaylBreinhar wrote:
This is in response to gildrak's comment in this thread in which he says:

"The more you re the closer you get to a disk. So my advice would be to re everything and if it is still junk then sell it to the dealer."

In my infamous REing thread, linked below in my sig, I post REing atrocities perpetrated by shipwrights of my OWN server who fail to exercise due diligence in pursuit of KSE discs. This has stopped some, but more and more crappy parts are listed almost daily.

Now, some of you may say: "How dare you call the Firespray outdated and outmoded! It's our only real content!"

And to that I respond - "open your eyes."

The KSE is 213k MAX mass, 2P/2M. Back BEFORE the M22-T, this was highly respectable, and also a decent ship for Freelancers.

NOW, and this is MY opinion, the only faction that even has ANY business buying the Firespray whatsoever for functional (not even mentioning decorative) purposes is an Imperial factional pilot, as the Oppressor only tops out around 172-173k masswise - the extra 40k on the KSE would allow for someone to slap heavier L10s on if they weren't as proficient in looting them.

Simply put:

QUIT BLINDLY WASTING RE PARTS IN PURSUIT OF A SHIP THAT NO LONGER FITS INTO THE REALISTIC STRATEGIC MAKEUP OF JTL. THE KSE HAD IT'S DAY, AND IT ENDED WHEN THE M22-T WAS INTRODUCED.

Some of you are taking the only real "Exceptional" loots left and tossing them away for a 1:1000 chance at getting a fragment to a schematic to a ship that most people aren't even interested in anymore.





Observe, it is your opinion that the Firespray is not worth us blindly RE'ing space loot.


First, if there is one thing I have learned after being a shipwright for nearly a year. To each his/her own. Players have their own preferences concerning ships. I have encountered players that actually like the Firespray, and others that don't.


Second, the Firespray still has the status of being rare. There just aren't that many of them out there, and some "collectors" are willing to pay for this reason.


Third, the Firespray completes the whole elite Bounty Hunter ensemble, including the jetpack and Mandolorian armor. Some wealthier Bounty Hunters will pay almost anything to "complete the picture".


Finally, the only reason I RE space loot is to find the Firespray disks. My business is based on crafting ship components, and hence I don't really have that much issue with "blindly" RE'ing this stuff.





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