Shipwright Archive
Thread: Firespray FAQ
pwiffo wrote:
Firespray FAQ:
Q: Does the RE level affect the chance a disk will drop?
A: No, ALL RE levels of loot will drop firespray disks.. and the level doesnt seem to affect the drop rate. The implication is it's better to RE lower level loot as you get 10 RE's of lvl 1 for each lvl 10 RE.
Q: Does the component name (i.e. Kuat Systems Engineering, Mandolmotors, etc...) affect drop rate?
A: No, it's completely random
Q: How many Firesprays can be built with one schematic
A: Each schematic will grant 3-6 uses, meaning that you can craft 3-6 Firespray blueprints with each schematic assuming no critital failures. No critical failures on ships, if Firespray has criticalled on anyone please /bug it.
Ive crit failed on a chassis before, but that was in the first few weeks of JTL.. so Im guessing this was changed later?
Pwiffo
A: No, ALL RE levels of loot will drop firespray disks.. and the level doesnt seem to affect the drop rate. Its important to note here that when REing only for Firespray segments, using low level loot is the most efficient as you get more disk chances per looted part."
Is this a fact as stated by devs, or simply an assumption that you do not get a chance per part REd period?
drop rate per looted item =
Lev 1 = 1/100
Lev 2 = 1/200
Lev 3 = 1/300
etc... since it takes more items the higher level you go
Pwiffo
Q: What do I need to do to craft KSE Firesprays?
A: In order to be able to make a KSE Firespray chassis, a shipwright must collect 8 different schematic segments. These segments are numbered 1 through 8 and drop randomly after a shipwright REs looted ship components. Once collected, the schematic is created by putting all 8 disks in a component analysis tool and analyzing. The schematic is limited use and requires a master shipwright level to use.
Q: What types of components can be RE'd?
A: Only looted reactors, engines, capacitors, shields, armor, boosters, droid interfaces, and weapons can be RE'd. Loot cannot be RE'd more than once.
Q: Does the RE level affect the chance a disk will drop?
A: No, ALL RE levels of loot will drop firespray disks.. and the level doesnt seem to affect the drop rate. Its important to note here that when REing only for Firespray segments, using low level loot is the most efficient as you get more disk chances per looted part.
Q: Does component type affect the droprate or the segment number?
A: No, its completetly random
Q: Does having disks in your inventory prevent you from getting a duplicate of that disk while REing?
A: No
Q: Does the component name (i.e. Kuat Systems Engineering, Mandolmotors, etc...) affect drop rate?
A: No, it's completely random
Q: Does RE skill level affect the droprate, ie will masters get disks more often?
A: No, since all RE levels seem to drop disks at the same rate, skill shouldnt matter
Q: How many Firesprays can be built with one schematic
A: Each schematic will grant 3-6 uses, meaning that you can craft 3-6 Firespray blueprints with each schematic
Q: Will a disk still drop on the last (bugged) use of a component analysis tool?
A: Yes a disk can drop on the last use of the tool (Pwiffo: Ive had this happen personally when I wasnt paying attention), but there have been some posts from players who've seen a disk drop get deleted from their inventory in this case. So for safety, its a good idea to delete analysis tools with only 1 use remaining.
Q: Does FS luck affect the disk drop rate?
A: No it does not (Pwiffo: Ive tested this)
Q: What are the stats on the completed Firespray chassis
A: Usaully 207-214k mass 2.5-3.6k hitpoints
Q: Are disks tradeable? What about the schematic?
A: Yes, disks can be sold/traded. Yes, the schematic created after analyzing all the disks is just like any loot drop schematic in the game, it can be used by a player with the prerequisite skill to put a limited use schematic in their datapad.
Q: How much do Firesprays cost? Why do they cost so much?
A: Look in your galaxy's trade forum, prices vary from server to server. Getting all 8 disks can take thousands of RE attempts and many millions of credits buying loot. Firesprays are like Krayted weapons or RIS armor... sure they are crafted, but they take very expensive parts and their price reflects that.
Please post additions/corrections and Ill keep the thread updated
Pwiffo
FS Master Shipwright - Valcyn
(completed 2 sets for 11 total firesprays, close to 3rd
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Message Edited by pwiffo on 12-23-2004 12:32 PM
Message Edited by pwiffo on 12-27-2004 05:42 PM
Marzuk147 wrote:
I just dont trust peoples flawed perception, unless statistics are kept. Another guy was sure that if you kept more schematic peices / REd loot in your inventory, you would get more disks too. Until a dev says anything one way or the other, Im not inclined to treat it as fact, only a possiblity.
It's not a flawed perception. It's based on the number of RE's you perform. The more you perform, the more chances you have of obtaining a disk. It may not be the one you're looking for, but it's still a disk. This is why MSW's tend to stick with level 1 and 2 components. They are widely available and they offer more RE attempts. Keep in mind that the KSE Firespray disks are loot drops from loot drops. Also, be aware that these ships are also considered epic drops much likeRIS Armor is an epic armor. It's not meant to be easy to obtain the disk. The only thing you can do is more RE'ing.
I've also noticed that people tend to sit on the higher end stuff anyways to get it RE'd at a later time and use in a master level ship. Not to mention the drop rates on the higher end stuff is lower than the mid-range loot. It's been my experience, even as an Ace pilot, that I loot more level 4-8 components than any other components. Keep in mind though, this is an observation based on what I've looted, not the community as a whole.
It's not a flawed perception. It's based on the number of RE's you perform. The more you perform, the more chances you have of obtaining a disk.
I have a quick question, Is the number of parts you re in one sitting the same as the number of parts you re in your whole career?
In other words, is it better to sit and do 100 re's at a time compared to doing 10 re's 10 different times?
Tks
Im not saying this is wrong, Im just saying its an assumption without the raw data to back it up, and as such, I wont take it for a fact until a dev / correspondant states it.
It does make little sense to give a penalty however on higher level parts.
>A: No, ALL RE levels of loot will drop firespray disks.. and the level doesnt seem to affect the drop rate. Its important to note here >that when REing only for Firespray segments, using low level loot is the most efficient as you get more disk chances per looted part.
Everyone has their own opinion.. and in RL I would agree that this statement lacks statistical backing.
But its a game.. and unless someone is insane enough to spend their free time keeping enough statistics to make that statement unarguably valid, Im content depending on the perception of a large group of experienced players.
Pwiffo
Marzuk147 wrote:
I have close to 2 sets now, and have not noticed any more drops from lower level items than higher. Does this mean Im right? No, it just means Im not keeping an accurate written record. People will see what they want to see, that is why simple perception is flawed. Even if someone was keeping a written record, finding a set or 2 of disks is simply not enough to form valid statistics either.
Im not saying this is wrong, Im just saying its an assumption without the raw data to back it up, and as such, I wont take it for a fact until a dev / correspondant states it.
It does make little sense to give a penalty however on higher level parts.
Slip3Kid wrote:
I have a quick question, Is the number of parts you re in one sitting the same as the number of parts you re in your whole career?
In other words, is it better to sit and do 100 re's at a time compared to doing 10 re's 10 different times?
Tks
It's sort of like gambling in Vegas or slicing weapons/armor. You have your good luck days and you have your bad luck days. If I do 100 RE's and don't get a disk, it's time for me to go do something else. If I'm on a roll, why stop now? IMO, it reallyjust depends on how things are turning out for me. Most days are average where I get a disk every 100-125 RE sessions.
I can say this, my best turnout was when I re'd a full pack of level 2 components left in the community house. 25 RE sessions and obtained 2 disks. Too bad they were both 2/8 