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Thread: Test Center Milking Observations

Vertexon
Thu Jan 22, 2004 11:34 pm
#1

Not sure if anyone has posted this information yet, but I thought I'd share some initial observations from my milking experience tonight:


You must be within 3 meters of a creature to milk it (an option on the radial menu of milkable creatures). You and the creature must remain relatively still during the entire process. If the creature moves (even a few meters) the process will fail and you'll have to start over. In this case, you will fail even if you moved with it and stayed inside the three meter distance. Creatures that constantly move around (like every humbaba I encountered) are extremely difficult to milk. Creatures resting on the ground are very easy.


The creatures you'd expect to be milkable pretty much are. On Corellia this includes at least:

humbabas

paralopes

krahbu (not violent krahbu)

bageraset

sharnaff (not sharnaff bulls )


Aggressive creatures do not appear to be milkable, even if they are a variant of a milkable herbivore (example: krahbu are milkable, violent krahbu are not)


Babies are milkable


Creatures in combat are milkable (I was able to successfully milk a humbaba while it fought a tabage).


Milkdoes not auto-stack in your inventory. You must combine the stacks by hand.


The milking process is a series of system messages, as follows:


You relax the creature and begin to milk it.
You continue to milk the creature.
You continue to milk the creature.
You have successfully gathered milk from the creature!


You can only successfully get milk from a creature once. After you have obtained milk, every subsequent attempt to milk that creature will give you the message that it is "dry of milk."


I did not keep careful records of the quantities, but average yield seemed to be 10-30. After an hour or so of milking, I had over 200 units.



-Vertexon.
TheLoneBowler
Fri Jan 23, 2004 3:05 am
#2

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Porag_Krongt
Fri Jan 23, 2004 10:55 am
#3

I also did a lot of milking last night on TC... you don't need to be still to milk but you do have to stay very close to the animal so if it starts walking away just stay under/next to the creature.

to the list of milkables i would add:

Banthas (plain, matriarch, or rogue only)

Rontos (plain only)



Also note that only one person can milk something so there will not be any big partys out looking for milk.



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Sojourner
Fri Jan 23, 2004 11:08 am
#4






Vertexon wrote:

Not sure if anyone has posted this information yet, but I thought I'd share some initial observations from my milking experience tonight:


You must be within 3 meters of a creature to milk it (an option on the radial menu of milkable creatures). You and the creature must remain relatively still during the entire process. If the creature moves (even a few meters) the process will fail and you'll have to start over. In this case, you will fail even if you moved with it and stayed inside the three meter distance. Creatures that constantly move around (like every humbaba I encountered) are extremely difficult to milk. Creatures resting on the ground are very easy.


The creatures you'd expect to be milkable pretty much are. On Corellia this includes at least:

humbabas

paralopes

krahbu (not violent krahbu)

bageraset

sharnaff (not sharnaff bulls )


Aggressive creatures do not appear to be milkable, even if they are a variant of a milkable herbivore (example: krahbu are milkable, violent krahbu are not)


Babies are milkable


Creatures in combat are milkable (I was able to successfully milk a humbaba while it fought a tabage).


Milkdoes not auto-stack in your inventory. You must combine the stacks by hand.


The milking process is a series of system messages, as follows:


You relax the creature and begin to milk it.
You continue to milk the creature.
You continue to milk the creature.
You have successfully gathered milk from the creature!


You can only successfully get milk from a creature once. After you have obtained milk, every subsequent attempt to milk that creature will give you the message that it is "dry of milk."


I did not keep careful records of the quantities, but average yield seemed to be 10-30. After an hour or so of milking, I had over 200 units.





Vertexon,


That's a great overview of the basicmechanics, but you didn't include any information about your character's scout skills. Is this at Novice only? Have you and other testers noticed a difference in yield do to skill boxes, and if so which?


Inquiring minds want to know....





Sojourner
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MyloStats
Fri Jan 23, 2004 11:36 am
#5

Yeah! and what does it Taste like? is it homoginized?What % is it? 2%, 1/2%, whole milk? Can we make Chocolate Milk, for i do infact recall Luke Skywalker drinking hot chocolate in one of the novels. Well, that may be one of the Chef skills. Can an architect make us milking machines? Canthey make furniture out of the empty milk crates like back in the 70's?

I feel these are all questions that need answering, and fast.

Gotta decide if im gonna go with the Milk Crate TV stand or not!!!



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Vertexon
Fri Jan 23, 2004 11:47 am
#6






Sojourner wrote:

Vertexon,


That's a great overview of the basicmechanics, but you didn't include any information about your character's scout skills. Is this at Novice only? Have you and other testers noticed a difference in yield do to skill boxes, and if so which?


Inquiring minds want to know....







Oh, sorry about that. I was a Master Scout for these tests. Test Center went down just before I wrote that, so I didn't have a chance to try it out at different levels of advancement to see if there would be a difference in yield.


I am puzzled that others are having success milking while following a moving critter. I tried that on half a dozen or more animals last night, and always failed on the next system message event ("The animal has moved..."). I do have some experience with staying close to moving wild animals (), so I'm not sure what I could have been doing wrong?




-Vertexon.
Talthazar
Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:03 pm
#7


I am puzzled that others are having success milking while following a moving critter. I tried that on half a dozen or more animals last night, and always failed on the next system message event ("The animal has moved..."). I do have some experience with staying close to moving wild animals (:, so I'm not sure what I could have been doing wrong?




Could be the normal lag between how far the server thinks you are and how far your target display thinks you are. The 11m for taming or even the 15m for dna sampling is probably a lot more forgiving than the 3m you stated for milking. I know I've often gotten range failure messages on dna sampling if I got exactly 15m away from a donor and hit my sample key before the server caught up.


Btw, thanks for the info, BE's have been waiting for this for a while now. Can't wait to try it myself.



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WarFerret
Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:18 pm
#8

Sharnaffs are milkable ? I get carnivore meat from them, not herbivore, if they're supposed to be herbivores please can we get the meat changed ? There aren't any big herbivores on corellia (grondas are carnivores as well).



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SirVimes
Fri Jan 23, 2004 3:45 pm
#9

I had success with moving creatures when I got up right next to them and then used the /follow command.


And for the record on Naboo I milked


Ikopi


Kaadu


Gualamas


Sorry if I butchered those names.


Vertexon
Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:23 pm
#10

Yes, I'm thinking Talthazar is correct about the server tolerances on my position. I was able to successfully milk while moving today by walking "inside" the creature. Incidentally, I think the distance is closer to 4 meters than my previous statement of 3 meters. The milking code must be using a more precise measurement of distancethan the targeting HUD displays, because sometimes it'll work at "4 meters" and sometimes it won't. It always works at three meters or less, though.


Add murras and rogue bagerasets to the list for Corellia. Which pretty much throws my theory about aggressives not being milkable out the door. I have no idea why krahbus are milkable and violent krahbus are not.... while at the same time both bagerasets and rogue bagerasets are milkable. Violent krahbus do indeed list as "herbivore meat" - so I'm at a loss on that one.





-Vertexon.
JBMat
Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:59 pm
#11

Vynocks are herbivores. Can we milk them?


Would we use a ladder?


Great info, good job, all kidding aside.


Wish I had the patience to do this sorta stuff. Instead I was killing stormies for a badge. Tonite, it's killiing raiding Imps, just another day at the office.


JB



Vertexon
Fri Jan 23, 2004 6:04 pm
#12

No vynocks. The smallest thing I've seen that was milkable (other than babies) is the paralope.


Creatures on Corellia which are definitely NOT milkable: any kind of durni,any kind ofvrelt, vynocks, scavenger rats, grondas, gronda patriarchs, any kind of grassland slice hound, any kind of dire cat,gurrcats, bull sharnaffs, plumed rasps,violent krahbu, any kind of butterfly, tabages, and any kind of gubbur.


Have not yet checked: swamp humbabas, savage humbabas, regular slice hounds, forest slice hounds, any canoids, any gulginaws, dwarf grondas, swamp gurrcats, forest murra, mountain murra, wooded paralope, or non-plumed rasps.




-Vertexon.
RodianForge
Fri Jan 23, 2004 6:14 pm
#13

I've got a TC character on tat. I haven't looked real hard but what is milkable on tat? I'll post info when i get it.



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