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Thread: scouting has gone to hell now

Julak
Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:43 am
#1

alright, after reading this thing about the droid harvesting thing, i have concluded that the scouting profession is going to hell. i shall remain a scout until someone rips its form my dead body. i hope that all of you will do the same, and delta or brisc whatever you prefer, please figth through hell for us to stop this nerf that sends us to hell. and yes i know i am not in the master club yet but, hakai pass those spiked rice balls, i need to forget about those dam devs. and who has the scotch?



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CaptVonbek
Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:49 am
#2

First off, i am not a scout but a DE, so i am not up to date with scout issues. However i was under the impression(misguided?) that scout would welcome this droid. A combat buddy who harvests for you, probots can be very handy now and are getting better. I am curious as to what it is you don't like about the idea. I mean no disrespect but i don't see a down side to this droid, it makes your life easier doesn't it?



Julak
Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:51 am
#3

it doesn't really help us much, beacuse you just need novice scout to use it anyone can pick it up and start harvesting stuff, therefore all the money we make selling stuff jsut went through the basement, prices drop because everyone can get them now.



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Julak
Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:52 am
#4

it doesn't really help us much, beacuse you just need novice scout to use it anyone can pick it up and start harvesting stuff, therefore all the money we make selling stuff jsut went through the basement, prices drop because everyone can get them now.



"The only Imp I regret never meeting was Grand Admiral Thrawn, he was also the only one I was ever sad to see go." Talax Shrad
Spacey
Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:27 am
#5

I've used this module on TC and I am confused about your concern.The skill of the droid is based off the skill of the user, so what is the difference between someone who gets novice scout to just harvest creatures and someone who gets novice scout just to harvest creatures using this droid?



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RozhlokLightningskull
Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:49 am
#6






Spacey wrote:

I've used this module on TC and I am confused about your concern.The skill of the droid is based off the skill of the user, so what is the difference between someone who gets novice scout to just harvest creatures and someone who gets novice scout just to harvest creatures using this droid?






Oh! Oh! Do you have more specifics on how it works! Do they scout the same amount as the player can? Can you group with the droid and both harvest the same animal? Will it automatically pick up the resource or to you have to issue a /tellpet command to do it for each one? Can you issue the command while you're in combat with another creature?




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DeltaXi65
Thu Apr 15, 2004 1:22 pm
#7

Julak,


You've been here long enough that you should know that this kind of post isn't necessary, appreciated, or in keeping with the tone of our forum.


There is absolutely no chance that this droid is going to ruin our profession. None at all. At the worst, a lot of folks who don't usually hunt will go out and hunt now. What harm does that do us? None - because that means we've got more folks out in the wild using our skills. That's a good thing.


Second of all, 95% of us have no experience with this droid, so all we're doing is speculating about how the droid will affect the dynamic of the profession. And to automatically assume that this will be a bad thing is stupid and shortsighted. I expect more from Scouts that this.


We have got to stop second guessing and pulling a Chicken Little every time the Devs make an improvement to the game or to our profession. First, it spits on their hard work. Would you rather every other profession in the game got a droid module except us? Second, it makes them less likely to make our fixes, because no matter what they do, we **edit** at them. So why bother even trying if you're going to take heat either way? But the effort into a profession that will appreciate it.


Be optimistic - think about how this can HELP us, rather than hinder us. If this harvesting bonus is true, that's great, because it will solve the problem that everyone has been complaining about recently with the harvesting rates.


If you've got qualms about something, go ahead and post them, but do it constructively. All this type of post does is start fights.


B





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RozhlokLightningskull
Thu Apr 15, 2004 1:38 pm
#8



Could you be the BH correspondent? God I missed this forum. Delta rules.




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Hakai
Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:27 pm
#9

*cheer*


and no...he would take two steps into that forum and come screaming back......



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Spacey
Fri Apr 16, 2004 12:05 am
#10

The droid has a "Harvest Bonus" modfier, although no one knows exactly how this number works except that the higher the number the better. Someone with a 60 power droid said it harvested about the same ammount they did, and we guess that the droid can get close to or above 100 power. So the droid might be able to harvest better than the player, it is still based off the players skill though. So if the droid was crafted well enough to be +10% then someone with a skill of 10 would have a droid with a skill of 11, but somone with a skill of 100 would have a droid with a skill of 110.


This is what we are guessing with a little bit of Sony QA confirmation. Keep in mind that a poorly crafted droid could actually be a worse harvester than you are. My droid which is a 33 harvests about 15% less than I do.


Only you or your droid can harvest from a creature, not both. And the grouping penalty does take effect if you group with your harvest droid. This was discused and hopefully they will be taking a look at it (no penalty if grouped only with pets).


You have to command it to harvest a creature each time you want to do it, and I imagine we will never see a autoharvest function in to make it harder to macro scout as the droids do grant you scout xp when they harvest.


The droid will harvest a different creature while you are fighting another. I like this feature and just the command itself as I really enjoy just staying prone in one spot and killing a nest telling the droid to go harvest while I work on the next creature.




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StarDryfter
Fri Apr 16, 2004 12:27 am
#11

So, does the droid store it on itself? Or does it store in yoru inventory?


When will this go live? Any ideas?





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RozhlokLightningskull
Fri Apr 16, 2004 12:49 am
#12






StarDryfter wrote:

So, does the droid store it on itself? Or does it store in yoru inventory?


When will this go live? Any ideas?








It stores the resource in the droid. And publish 8 was scheduled for 4/27, I believe.




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RozhlokLightningskull
Fri Apr 16, 2004 12:56 am
#13

Spacey,


Wow thanks for the info. That is some really good stuff to hear. Its exactly what I was hoping for from this module. Also, can the droid's harvesting ability be affected by your avatar taking veghash?




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