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Thread: New idea to replace Maskscent nerf

M0B
Fri Feb 06, 2004 11:50 am
#14


Personally,


Its ludicrous to have maskscent work on a vehicle - they are big noisy and smelly!


(I know I shouldn't be able to fit my HTFB in my pack either....)


Terrain Negotion and maskscent applying on mounts is a winner though.


imo
Ictus
Fri Feb 06, 2004 2:37 pm
#15

Honestly, I like being able to mask scent while on a vehicle. I have a BE and it makes dna sampling easier. I could care less about exp. Its seems like its the same problem all over that got mask scent nerf before, gaining scout exp while running around aggressive creatures. Honestly, you I don'tthink you should get exp from mask scent period. Since they fixed the ability for group harvesting you can get more than enough in a short time hunting on Dath.



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DeltaXi65
Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:00 pm
#16

Seiryuu,


Great post.


I think I agree - the Ranger /conceal issue was one that I was not focusing on.


I think the best approach would be to ask if they would remove XP from maskscent if you are on a vehicle. That doesn't hurt Rangers, and solves the problem we have with it as it stands.


Good work fellas!


B



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Seiryuu
Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:33 pm
#17

And I didn't do it with a huge rant where I'm a big meanie to get my point across!

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Lorell
Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:46 pm
#18

Here are some reasons why it should be left alone. Yes if you race around the planet anything that can aggro you is left in the dust. For those people that actually get off their bikes and look around they need maskscent. CH, BE's and more all need to be able ride up and get close and personal with creatures. Having no maskscent available would preclude that. If you are really that worried about people grinding xp for it, just remove all xp gained while on a vehicle. It's that simple. We keep a valuable skill, exploiters don't get easy xp. What is wrong with that solution?



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DeltaXi65
Fri Feb 06, 2004 4:58 pm
#19

Lorell,


Well, that's what I'm going to propose now.


But what is keeping the BEs and the others from hopping of their bikes and hitting mask scent? Nothing - they can do that.


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mmaughme
Fri Feb 06, 2004 7:49 pm
#20




DeltaXi65 wrote:

Lorell,


Well, that's what I'm going to propose now.


But what is keeping the BEs and the others from hopping of their bikes and hitting mask scent? Nothing - they can do that.


B





Nothing, really. It's just ease of use. I've taken to shutting off my speaker when flying across a planet, due to the endless combat music that starts and stops as I fly past a mob. I scent all the time to reduce the chance of this happening. And for some of the high-level mobs we approach for sampling, approaching scented gives us an easier opportunity to escape with our hides intact. If we need to dismount first, and then scent, we need to do so >40m away to prevent aggro, which means we then need to approach on foot. As such we're far from our bikes, and often end up dead. This may not sound like a big deal, but given the frequency with which BEs die, it's at least irritating to us.


So again, nothing necessarily keeps us from doing it, but it would certainly eliminate some of the annoyance with sampling DNA from high-level nasties such as merek death's heads and mutant rancors. Certainly I can't see granting XP while on a bike, considering it's then trivial to get scouting XP. Spend a few hours on Endor or Yavin, and you're set.


Contrariwise, I can also see the argument that you shouldn't be able to mask scent on a speeder as they're loud and smelly -- especially the ones that are on fire. But on the other hand, I'd argue that if you're flying across a planet on a speeder, the mobs should probably stampede away from you, depending upon their aggressiveness.





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Tarnblade
Sat Feb 07, 2004 3:08 am
#21

Sheesh ive hear of pointless posts but this has got to be the most stupid thing ive heard yet.


Who really cares if people put on mask scent and drive around a planetto get exp ?



I certainly dont and I got most of my mask scent before vehickles or mounts were an option for my char.


All you do is run around lots of red mobs.


Yes doing this on foot works.



And guess what.


If you burst run you can escape,,,


/gasp



Next your gona ask for burst run to be nerfd whilst using mask scent.


Dang ive gone and given you nuts another silly idea.


Hakai
Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:32 am
#22

hey now...seeing that a lot of BE's come here about the mask scent. would it be viable for stun type weapons? that will make a creature drop in it's tracks with an incap? lol


I know it's not realistic, but would be certainly interesting to implement, then a BE could hire a hunting party to tranq all the animals. (ugh but there would be exploits i can see it).....but then again, perhaps the chance of getting a good sample is reduced when a creature has been incapped? I think one of the BE's should take this to their forum.





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DeltaXi65
Sun Feb 08, 2004 2:35 am
#23


Tarn,


Go check some of the other threads on here. Who cares?


The community does.


I don't know how long you've been reading the Scout boards - I know this is your 2nd post here, though - but we actually care about this profession, and don't like it when people use our skills to skip over having to actually play their characters.


And I can guarantee that you've read many more "stupider" posts on the CH boards.


B

Message Edited by DeltaXi65 on 02-08-2004 04:39 AM



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Hakai
Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:07 am
#24






Tarnblade wrote:

Sheesh ive hear of pointless posts but this has got to be the most stupid thing ive heard yet.


Who really cares if people put on mask scent and drive around a planetto get exp ?



I certainly dont and I got most of my mask scent before vehickles or mounts were an option for my char.


All you do is run around lots of red mobs.


Yes doing this on foot works.



And guess what.


If you burst run you can escape,,,


/gasp



Next your gona ask for burst run to be nerfd whilst using mask scent.


Dang ive gone and given you nuts another silly idea.







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as for who cares? i've been a scout sincethe second day i started. Trustme, most of us on this board has probably beena scout for longer than you've played. If you wantto start trolling, do it on the CH, or BH boards.


Message Edited by Hakai on 02-08-2004 05:09 PM



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Tarnblade
Sun Feb 08, 2004 3:31 pm
#25




probably beena scout for longer than you've played



And you point is ?


(apart from ive playd for longer than you, therefore I am undoubtbly your GOD in gaming terms rubish)




Im just puting in an alternate point of view.


Nerfing mask scent on veh isnt gona be a huge fix.




If people want the mask scent skill there still going to have to spend the exact same skill points we did to get it.


All your really arguing about is the amount of ingame time it takes them to get it.



Somtimes xp in games gets easier to come by.



Somtimes it get's harder to come by.


Though when this happens I dont notice the masters of said profesion all begging to have to gain the extra xp over again.




Usualy people onlymoan when it gets easier cause they feel it cheapns what they have done.


Lorell
Sun Feb 08, 2004 9:52 pm
#26

I think everyone will be happy if scouts keep the maskscent skill irregardless if they are on vehicles or not, if we remove the xp that they could gain from riding around. Maskscent will still work while they are on a vehicle, but they will not gain any experience from it. This seems to be a reasonable compromise that most people can agree with.



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