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Thread: advanced warning please read

xPREDATORx
Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:36 am
#1

Recently on our server(bria) we have had a Bidding war on at the moment between docs on a current avian spawn and the cpu rates have gone wild as high as 350cpu, which is all great and all for us hunters but it looks like it might be turning against us, Its seems obviously that most hunters r selling to the highest sellers leaving many small time docs in the dark but it turns out i have gotten wind of some nasty news.....


I have gotten wind that Doctors are joining up to fix prices and that they will only pay 50cpu. if this is not true which i hope it wont do NOT! do NOT! except this cost if doctors are gonna band together to make tarde wars us hunters need to band together for are own sakes....rangers r rare as gold dust anyways.

as for noobs who arnt to sure on prices ask guild friend but do not except low pay you would better off selling it to another hunterfor them to shift.


Im not flaming docs im trying to be proactive against this kind of Bad Trade from happening as a ranger myself we need to pull together and set our prices and not be dictated to by greedy doc's.


Yes this isnt all docs and doin favour's for guild doc is different but for the average harvesting contractthis is unfair...


your thought reply and feedback please (i wil also be posting this in the scout forum too)



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xPREDATORx
Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:37 am
#2


Recently on our server(bria) we have had a Bidding war on at the moment between docs on a current avian spawn and the cpu rates have gone wild as high as 350cpu, which is all great and all for us hunters but it looks like it might be turning against us, Its seems obviously that most hunters r selling to the highest sellers leaving many small time docs in the dark but it turns out i have gotten wind of some nasty news.....


I have gotten wind that Doctors are joining up to fix prices and that they will only pay 50cpu. if this is not true which i hope it wont do NOT! do NOT! except this cost if doctors are gonna band together to make tarde wars us hunters need to band together for are own sakes....rangers r rare as gold dust anyways.

as for noobs who arnt to sure on prices ask guild friend but do not except low pay you would better off selling it to another hunterfor them to shift.


Im not flaming docs im trying to be proactive against this kind of Bad Trade from happening as a ranger myself we need to pull together and set our prices and not be dictated to by greedy doc's.


Yes this isnt all docs and doin favour's for guild doc is different but for the average harvesting contractthis is unfair...


your thought reply and feedback please (i wil also be posting this in the scout forum too)



Boe-Os Darksky Former SWG Veteran (Reactivated)
Proud Member of ATO (Yes we're back!)
Jedi and Melee hater No more...NOW NGE hater (We all preferred pre-cu didnt we!)

Ehope
Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:39 am
#3

I hoard the stuff anyway.

Personally, I think Docs should buff Rangers free. Call it pity. I'm ok with that.

Ariven
Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:53 am
#4



xPREDATORx wrote:
Recently on our server(bria) we have had a Bidding war on at the moment between docs on a current avian spawn and the cpu rates have gone wild as high as 350cpu, which is all great and all for us hunters but it looks like it might be turning against us, Its seems obviously that most hunters r selling to the highest sellers leaving many small time docs in the dark but it turns out i have gotten wind of some nasty news.....
I have gotten wind that Doctors are joining up to fix prices and that they will only pay 50cpu. if this is not true which i hope it wont do NOT! do NOT! except this cost if doctors are gonna band together to make tarde wars us hunters need to band together for are own sakes....rangers r rare as gold dust anyways.
as for noobs who arnt to sure on prices ask guild friend but do not except low pay you would better off selling it to another hunter for them to shift.
Im not flaming docs im trying to be proactive against this kind of Bad Trade from happening as a ranger myself we need to pull together and set our prices and not be dictated to by greedy doc's.
Yes this isnt all docs and doin favour's for guild doc is different but for the average harvesting contract this is unfair...
your thought reply and feedback please (i wil also be posting this in the scout forum too)





RoB (Rangers of Bria) are sticking with the price first offered to us by a customer... and wont be participating in the constant elevation of price... we dont do that.

Admittedly that price -is- above 50 cpu, but for the volume needed for a buff pack its not a significant price for the return.

The biggest bar is the mind numbing tediousness of hunting the rasps, gulginaws and fearful fynocks... sigh.

But my point is that not all hunters are participating in the escalatiion of pricing.. it burns customers faster that way.
xPREDATORx
Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:55 am
#5



Recently on our server(bria) we have had a Bidding war on at the moment between docs on a current avian spawn and the cpu rates have gone wild as high as 350cpu, which is all great and all for us hunters but it looks like it might be turning against us, Its seems obviously that most hunters r selling to the highest sellers leaving many small time docs in the dark but it turns out i have gotten wind of some nasty news.....


I have gotten wind that Doctors are joining up to fix prices and that they will only pay 50cpu. if this is not true which i hope it wont do NOT! do NOT! except this cost if doctors are gonna band together to make tarde wars us hunters need to band together for are own sakes....rangers r rare as gold dust anyways.

as for noobs who arnt to sure on prices ask guild friend but do not except low pay you would better off selling it to another hunterfor them to shift.


Im not flaming docs im trying to be proactive against this kind of Bad Trade from happening as a ranger myself we need to pull together and set our prices and not be dictated to by greedy doc's.


Yes this isnt all docs and doin favour's for guild doc is different but for the average harvesting contractthis is unfair...


your thought reply and feedback please (i wil also be posting this in the scout forum too)

(had to repost this because i think my last one got instantly deleted why i ask why?)



Boe-Os Darksky Former SWG Veteran (Reactivated)
Proud Member of ATO (Yes we're back!)
Jedi and Melee hater No more...NOW NGE hater (We all preferred pre-cu didnt we!)

Owen-Lars
Thu Jul 29, 2004 1:34 pm
#6

Yeah its the same thing when some people wanted us to fix our prices to get us more.


Ill tell you something i wouldnt ever sigh to any arrangment on prices, id happily be the rogue trader and get rich doing so.


If people are willing to sell and buy then im happy to supply all i can, and if that means they are fighting over my services then ill take that as a compliment and cash in.



Im not greedy with cash but if people are throwing it at me left and right, im gonna stick my arms out and grab a bunch of shinny credits.



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JBMat
Thu Jul 29, 2004 2:47 pm
#7

How many docs can harvest?


Continue harvesting as usual. If you can't get a decent price, don't sell. Hoard the stuff. If no one sells - docs can't make buffs - docs can't make a million creds a day or more buffing = they will come to you.


You got the supply of what they demand.


JB
WildBil2Me
Thu Jul 29, 2004 4:14 pm
#8

You know its funny... on my server smugglers have decided to do something similar. There's word that a smugglers union is being formed to regulate prices on slicing. Normally on Wanderhome slices go for 3k. Not too shabby I think.


Word is these smuggler's want to charge 10k instead because (as they point out) only they can slice. It can be guaranteed though (even on a small server like Wanderhome) that not every smuggler will fall in line, and many of the platers who claim to will break ranks when there's profit to be made.


I've noticed a few things over time. At first the IDs were going nuts with their prices on Stat Migration... it went down. WSs were charging huge amounts of cash for weapons (unsliced T21s going for 200k). DEs were charging a bloody fortune for everything... etc. etc.


Though I wish we Rangers had stricter control over our commodity (Creature Resources) we don't. But the good news is prices will regulate themselves eventually. People will be undercutting people, and ultimately people will break the trade agreements so they can guarantee they can make the best buff packs or the most buff packs.


Besides... if people don't pay enough... hold it sit back and wait for the resource to go away... if its good there'll be a market for it on auction eventually.


-WB



Col. Wyndinn Maer
Antarian Rangers: Wanderhome
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Nemo0
Thu Jul 29, 2004 5:31 pm
#9

Just remember that the harvesters are not setting the 350cpu prices. Those prices are there because the doctors are willing to pay that. Not everyone charges that and not everyone pays that. And you always see these things going on. Charge what you want as long as you can get it. Although giving the stuff away usually ends up being more fun for everyone.



Lythender Nirou
Crazy Bothan


Washell
Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:01 pm
#10


  1. It only takes 1 doc to break that agreement.

  2. Avian meat is to annoying to harvest for 50cpu, supply and demand will kick in.

  3. The docs need that meat to make money, rangers can sell to a lot of other professions.

The docs aren'tin a position to dictate the price and they won't be until SOE makes changes that increase the supply beyond the demand. If the docs do get and stay behind this then buffs will become very rareand expensive on the server. Which will kick in greed and pretty soon scouts/ranger will get private tells from docs they will pay more so they can profit more from the raised buff prices. Which will pretty soon revert everything to it'scurrent situation.


Worst case scenario: Couple of docs/harvesters will profit temporarely from the situation, general population suffers.


Expected scenario: they can't get all docs behind this and nothing changes.


Ducimus
Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:02 pm
#11

Good greif, whats going on here?!

Ok, im a newbie, only been playing 3 weeks. I plan on harvesting as my primary professon, eventually im going ranger.

Now back to that avian meat, how much does this stuff sell for? What type are ppl looking for?

I mean, i have no idea of the market value. So far ive been selling most anything i harvest in lots of 1000 , for a flat 6000 fee (6 CPU) on the market terminal because thats as high as it will let me go.

I do alot of hunting on Talus, is there a reason why the avian meat i haul back to mos Esley from there sell really fast?



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Zandreff
Thu Jul 29, 2004 9:11 pm
#12






Ducimus wrote:
Good greif, whats going on here?!

Ok, im a newbie, only been playing 3 weeks. I plan on harvesting as my primary professon, eventually im going ranger.

Now back to that avian meat, how much does this stuff sell for? What type are ppl looking for?

I mean, i have no idea of the market value. So far ive been selling most anything i harvest in lots of 1000 , for a flat 6000 fee (6 CPU) on the market terminal because thats as high as it will let me go.

I do alot of hunting on Talus, is there a reason why the avian meat i haul back to mos Esley from there sell really fast?






Ok,gonna help out the noob.First off let me say I'm glad you want to become a hunter as your primary proffession,and I look forward to seeing you in the Ranger forum.Now on to the help.Avian meat is needed by docs for making buffs.Each server sells meat at different prices,what a doc pays on Bria may be different from what they pay on Eclipse.When looking at the meat it is important to find good potential energy and good overall quality.Somewhere in the 800s is considered good,in the 900s is great.On Eclipse,I'm getting 75-100 cpu for the great stuff.



You say your selling 1k stacks for 6k on the market and wonder why it's going fast,I would look at its stats and if the OQ or PE are 800-1000 there's your reason.Even if they're not,avian is going to sell anyways.What I would do,and this is just me,is find a doc,tell him/her your a hunter and work out an arrangement.If you can get him/her a stack of 5k avian meat with say 800s in both the important stats,you can easly make 250k (again that's dependant on your server).Be fair when making your arrangements,you don't want to over or under charge yourself,and you could end up with a constant source ofincome in dealing with a few docs.I hope this helps you out.



As far as the origanal post,there will always be those hunters who sell to the highest bidder and those who will sell at a fair set price.It's just the way things go.I don't think there's any need to worry.

Sehvral
Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:26 pm
#13

Like most of the Rangers (I'm only 1/2/4/0 atm), I have more credits than I know what to do with. I've got a large house, a new set of armor, a pretty good weapon, some factories to mass-produce stim-A and H/A wound packs plus traps, camps, etc, and I can't spend my cash fast enough.

I do hunt for some of the smaller docs, usually just whatever has the best stats on my current planet, and I do it cheaply (10 creds or so for what would normally go for 25). Just my way of helping the lowbies get to master. If I'm ever in need of creds, I can get it in no time. I remember back in the early days when I would give a novice medic 5-6K units for a quick heal...but now, they all want nothing but credits.

As for avian meats, if the docs want it, they can pay scouts to harvest it. At least they don't have to run from lair to lair one-shotting everything for 15 units a mob. It is even worse than tracking.



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