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Thread: rifleman / doc / brawler = still able to solo elders

gunner4life
Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:36 am
#1
tried my first elder yesterday post force powers patch . no kiting , no conceal shot . just had to make sure i kept her intimidated and healed dizzy as soon as she applied it . the rest is head shot 3 history . looted a uber leather satchel too


the second elder i tried killed me with around 100k mind left , i got careless and did not heal dizzy quick enough , got knockdowned and killed like the dog i am .


both times she was using a powerhammer so the damage was acceptable . if she had pulled out a baton i would probably have needed to burstrun .


any other rifleman have any tips / macro's etc that will help ?



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RottaBetito
Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:27 am
#2
I am not totally convinced you solo'ed an elder with no kiting, especially if she uses a power hammer. I am very used to hunt elders with a master tank (master 2H speed capped, master brawler and few other defense dablling), and even with melee mitigation 3, krayt compo armor, all the food and stuff...still challenging to kill.


So my question are : what is your melee defense skill ? How much time you needed to take them down ? How can you tank when you take a bleed ???


Sorry to have so many doubts, but really, it seems hard for me, unless you have a very very very good T21....Could you please more details about your equipment ?




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jthompson02
Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:46 am
#3
I could have sworn that ANY damage type we rifleman have, that a elder starts with 100% res against it. And with the melee penality for holding a rifle is to huse. I call BS my friend



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KrogaMasi
Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:24 am
#4
NO, spell waeavers and protectors have 100% resists to all rifleman damage types...get it right. Elders are very soloable with conceal shot. I don't usually hunt solo though, not as much fun.



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Dynastar
Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:32 am
#5
It all depends on the weapon she uses really.

If she pulls out a Stun Baton, Power Hammer, Scythe, etc. get ready to run.



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gunner4life
Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:18 pm
#6




RottaBetito wrote:

I am not totally convinced you solo'ed an elder with no kiting, especially if she uses a power hammer. I am very used to hunt elders with a master tank (master 2H speed capped, master brawler and few other defense dablling), and even with melee mitigation 3, krayt compo armor, all the food and stuff...still challenging to kill.


So my question are : what is your melee defense skill ? How much time you needed to take them down ? How can you tank when you take a bleed ???


Sorry to have so many doubts, but really, it seems hard for me, unless you have a very very very good T21....Could you please more details about your equipment ?






lol, believe me i wouldn't make anything up , its just a game . by the way since i posted this message i have killed 2 more so it wasn't a one off lucky kill .


okay now for details . i am a regular master rifleman , 4 4 4 0 doc , novice brawler . i am speed capped , and have a extra +16 rifle accuracy and +10 ranged defence ( akuan rings ) . no other attachments for any kind of defences . my armor is 25% stun , 80- 85% base .my rifle is a standard 408 max t-21 which i got a 32 or 33% damage slice so its around 540 max ( i have another similar t-21 and i start the fight with both poweredup and hotkeyed so i can switch while fighting .


naturally 2500 buffs and dancer / musician buffs are used . 2 brandies , 1 50 filling vercupti . the rest of stomach filling is used for either another vercupti or cannape depending on need . also keep a moun gold hotkeyed .


with all these precautions as along as she doesnt pull out a stun baton i can just heal whatever she throws at me ( have to keep her intimidated at all times ) the bleeds can be nasty at times and if they get the mind pool then i guess you are screwed . also during the course of the fight she will use so many force powers that your ham becomes small at times so the vercupti really helps .


even then its not a certainty ,one mistake and you could be dead or a few unlucky big mind hits and its all over . since each time i hunt a elder i know there is a very real chance i might be visiting the cloner i prefer to kill a few regular nightsisters and then when i have around 30 minutes left on the mind buffs go looking for a elder .as far as how long it takes ( honestly it feels like forever cause its so touch and go ) but actually its probably around 8 - 10 minutes i think . before rifleman i was a non - speed caped master swordsmen and i think it used to take me 25 minutes with my swordsmen .


still no loot worthy of mention



oahep acto


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PsionicHawk
Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:00 pm
#7
Why would bleeds be a problem for a doctor?



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gunner4life
Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:12 pm
#8




PsionicHawk wrote:

Why would bleeds be a problem for a doctor?






the bleeds she uses are really hard core , they take anywhere from 2 to 5 firstaids to heal ( i also wear +25 injutry / wound treatment pants which i forgot to mention ) . if a heavy bleed ( 4 to 5 first aids ) hits the mind i dont think i could survive . if it hits the other pools its much more managable since i easily heal 1500 health and action with a stim .



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Eraint
Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:09 am
#9
Elders are 100% resist to everything but blast, energy, and restraint. That is 25%.

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Message Edited by Eraint on 10-06-2004 03:11 PM

Message Edited by Eraint on 10-06-2004 03:12 PM



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Finnean
Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:23 am
#10
If oahep says he killed one, he killed one. It isnt impossible.


Oahep, Instead of relying on a hotkey to cure your dizzy you should likley have it macrod to hit every two seconds or so and have that running independantly of any other macros running, perhaps even a /healself wouldnt hurt.


The time spent in the cure and healing is worth it. Im guessing you were already using the melee defence food ( starts with a v.. cant recall right now ) and thaktillo for def vs. KD



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KyridIce
Thu Oct 07, 2004 1:02 pm
#11
As a Master Rifle/Master Doc/Novice Brawler, I know very well where this guy is coming from. I have been in situations where I've had to tank elders (not fun when 2 elders decide to attack your group at once). Anyways, when I'm tanking elders, I barely have time to get shots off in between applying intims and healing myself. Being speed capped with a 530-ish damage t21 (not using powerups) I can take down an elder in about 5-10 minutes with a friend tanking. If I had to do the tanking AND the damage dealing, I doubt I'd be able to kill an elder in less than 25-30 mins. So I am sure soloing elders is possible, but why would you even want to? You'd kill more elders in less time if you group with a friend. And when it comes to getting the good stuff from elders, its all about numbers...the more you kill the better your chances of finding some rare loot.





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axefina
Fri Oct 08, 2004 1:44 am
#12
If you intimidate it's possible, but why do it that why. My friend, who's a heavy swordsman, and i can take down and elder with 100k ham in about 2 minits. If you milk the spawn right you can kill 17 elders in an hour. It's just a matter of finding them.



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Morfo_Dubious
Fri Oct 08, 2004 6:45 pm
#13




axefina wrote:

If you intimidate it's possible, but why do it that why. My friend, who's a heavy swordsman, and i can take down and elder with 100k ham in about 2 minits. If you milk the spawn right you can kill 17 elders in an hour. It's just a matter of finding them.





I call bullsh*t on that.




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