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Thread: Consider this ex-Rifleman officially disillusioned/converted

HaydenCross
Sat Sep 20, 2003 4:12 pm
#1

Devs, **edit** are you thinking?


This is just some fun stuff for you already pissed Rifleman to ponder...


It took me about 15 hours to get to Rifle III (about average).


It took me 3 hours today to get to Pistol III (???)


Oh yeah, and that was using a snotty like DL-18 all the way. AND I can already kill things withthat snotty little D-18 at Pistol III that I couldn't even dream of soloing at RifleIII with a LaserRifle!(such as zucca boars, sycks, etc).


It just goes to show you how b0rked rifle is in comparison to the rest of the classes in this game... since the devs obviously only care about pistoleers and BHs, I suggest every rifleman in the word drop what they are doing and go pistoleer/BH. Tactics are out the window with a pistol... if I think I can kill it, I probably can (try doing that with a rifle and the 2.5x damage penalty)


Seriously,just going Pistoleerwould save us all a ton of frustration. Rifleman is obviously an underpoweredclass the devs don't care about and have almost completely abandoned.





-- Hayden 'Doc' Cross --
Imperial Corporal / Imperial Medic
"Turning my blue bar white since Beta 2."

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Avantos
Sat Sep 20, 2003 4:59 pm
#2

Oh yeah, you got that right. I was planning on going BH so I had to Master Marksmen. Now, I can only play a couple hours a day, and It took me 3 weeks to get rifle 1/2 way through lvl 4. I started really getting irritated that dwarf Nuna's on Tatooine could hit me for 120 health damage while it took me 5 shots to kill them so I picked up a pistol to lvl up there. It took me 2 days to get to the same lvl as rifle. Absolutly sickening. You are absolutly right, if you think you can kill it, you can. Oh and you forgot to mention that the pistol is even more accurate then the rifle out to 64 Meters as well, as well as being able to shoot 3 times faster.


And Holo wonders why sooo many people are becoming Pistoleers...

CarverOrmazd
Sat Sep 20, 2003 7:39 pm
#3

Sign the other petitions here guys, help us out.

We are poor, beaten, and nerfed, but at least we can stand (shakily) together.



Carver Ormazd
Founder of the Rebel Underground
Today, Smuggling Armorsmith
(Former Master Rifleman, Medic, Doctor, CH, Scout, Merchant, Marksman, Tailor, etc.)

Vendor @ 3400, -7075 on Tatooine, south of Mos Eisley in Echo Base.
Mafixer
Sat Sep 20, 2003 7:40 pm
#4

haha u guys are funny, sure, at first the rifle does suck, its not a tool that is easily wielded, even in real life. the fact is tho, on higher mobs, lvl 15+ the rifle is far superior. my bleed with a pistol is in the 300's while on my rifle toon i get bleeds up over 1000.


also, rifle has ae with effects, pistol... does not, not untill master anyway.


i myself am converting my combat chemist back to rifle, i cant stand pistol, the damage sucks





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Pecos
Sat Sep 20, 2003 8:31 pm
#5

Yeah, come back to talk to us after about a week of trying to convert your chemist to rifle, THEN let's see what you have to say.


All of the stuff that was easy to kite has been nerfed in one way or another, you can't level a rifleman like you used to. Pistols can tank a creature, rifles are FORCED to try and kite.


After a week, I bet you'll be kissing your brand new pistol.


Foth
Sun Sep 21, 2003 3:20 am
#6

stop being a crybaby.


i hate whiners!


1. go to a weaponsmith and make sure u get a rifle that suits your playing style.


2. Pick up some pistol or bh if u can. bh has better pistol and carbine accuracy then the carbine or pistol line.


3. use proper tactics on what u are killing, apprecriate some of the shots and how u can kill with aggro. if u dont miss.


4. until u master the class and fully understand it, u are only qualified to speakon what u know, so dont whine and cry and be a sissy, have some responsibility for your words.


If you are having a problem and need help, ask, people here will be more than happy to help you. Crying about and it being negative is not going to help you or anyone. It puts u in a state of mind that you should more self respect to not have.


Im sorry for anyone who does not enjoy there character, but to an extent this is of your fault. I am a bh and i am not happy with the profession, i can kill any mark but the investigation line hideously broken. Yes the LLC is cool, but so is the t21. Im not gonna cry and whine say bh sucks and rant about the problems of the profession, and theyre are many. All professions have issues.


Take an active role and /bug when applicable, write constructive thoughts and reasons for what u dislike or like.


Done!


Foth!




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Seflyn
Sun Sep 21, 2003 3:24 am
#7






Foth wrote:

Yes the LLC is cool, but so is the t21. Foth!





It is? Maybe if it was on my server I might know.



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TookrakLarrin
Sun Sep 21, 2003 3:29 am
#8

im guessing, but i reckon



Foth is the love child of ............ Silverlobo



hehe, kidding guyss.


PyscoJuggalo
Sun Sep 21, 2003 4:15 am
#9

Must be talkin about a laser rifle, never seen a T-21 before. WTH is that? Is that the age of consent in Tenn or Texas.



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Manae
Sun Sep 21, 2003 11:38 am
#10

Fosh has points. Indeed he does. In the few posts I've read in here, I'd hate to see most of these people try and be Fencers. Whoooo-boy.


I started as a 1-handed brawler, but picked up a rifle for the group hunts I was going on. Up until III for both, I was keeping pretty even. Then, I dropped marksman and began hammering up Fencer. Talk about issues... pathetic damage, not the uber-quick class we're supposed to be, HAM costs can kill you, no armor, server problems make PvP impossible (they look like they're 3 meters away, but they're really 13... and for some reason, on their end, you really are that far away.)... I picked back up marksman last week to let Fencer chill until the class gets some lovin', which is looking like soon.


Currenlty, I've Rifle III, about to hit IV, pistol IV, Carbine III, and full ranged support. Though I was going to go commando, I'm thinking it's Rifleman instead, since my Ranger sucks up too many SP to make it worth it.


I'm using: a cheap Laser rifle /w stock. ~50-350 damge, 7.2 attack speed, decent range mods, horrible HAM costs. -- a DLT20a for mid-range, pretty average over-all. -- a SG82 for close-range (35 is ideal) that's also pretty average. I bought all of these for a grand total of about 10k off some un-known non-master's vendor.


What's to whine about? So you teleport when going prone... Get a little closer to the target before you do it. Judge it right, you end up where you want to be. **edit**, that was hard. Slow attack speed? yeah well, deal. I deal more damage with my cheaply made rifles than my master pistols. DPS is lower, but when you're prone it normally takes two or three shots before a creature aggros; with scent masked, I can get up tofive(okay,so if you're not a scout/ranger, that's no help). I'm yet to go into PvP with it, but all it takes is some strategy to be effective.


Opps, I forgot, people don't want to hear 'strategy.' My bad.


Though, I do admit pistols and carbines are as oddly accurate as rifles at 60m, despite the bad range mods. That needs looking into. Not to mention, it'd be nice to see max ranges adjusted to the weapon, say maybe pistols 30, carbines 45, and rifles left alone. Also, a nice sniper rifle, ranged out to over 100... hmmmmm. Why isn't there a sniper-class rifle?




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Manae
Sun Sep 21, 2003 11:39 am
#11

Need an 'edit' button... Foth, not Fosh.




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Manae Lanno'lin
Foth
Sun Sep 21, 2003 1:52 pm
#12

One problem i see with the game is that weapon certs come far too early. My thoughts are make the laser and t21 (sorry for those who dont have them on their server yet) weapon certs higher up the line.


with that said, they should make the shots and guns more practical and exclusive to rifleman, instead of just the T21.


I dont play pvp but i have a question that could potentially help?


Question: can anyone lay mines, if so why cant u lay mines around ur area.


its just a thought and maybe if this is not practical now maybe they could make it so.


Foth!




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Master NoHup
zanetheinsane
Sun Sep 21, 2003 4:25 pm
#13



Manae wrote:

What's to whine about? So you teleport when going prone... Get a little closer to the target before you do it. Judge it right, you end up where you want to be. **edit**, that was hard. Slow attack speed? yeah well, deal. I deal more damage with my cheaply made rifles than my master pistols. DPS is lower, but when you're prone it normally takes two or three shots before a creature aggros; with scent masked, I can get up tofive(okay,so if you're not a scout/ranger, that's no help). I'm yet to go into PvP with it, but all it takes is some strategy to be effective.

Opps, I forgot, people don't want to hear 'strategy.' My bad.






OH GOD! That's what we've been doing wrong. Well I'm glad Manae has the rifleman profession pinned down, seeing as how he's ALL the way up Rifle III in Marksman.

Really guys we should all just quit whining and compensate for all the thing that are broken with our class, which is, uhm, let's see... EVERYTHING. Our class isn't broken, we're just not handling it right.

That's it folks, You heard it here. Manae final word: Rifleman, if anything, is an awesome class, and is NOT (I repeat NOT) broken. Take his word for it, he has a few hours worth of experience killing durnis with rifles.

So all you riflemen out there... STOP WHINING because obviously nothing is wrong.

/sarcasm

10 bucks says Manae doesn't make it as a rifleman.
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