Rifleman Archive

Thread: IS it me or are some things VERY WRONG?

killerbeex40
Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:27 am
#1

Riflemen SUCK we all know that and i do to now. To think i gave up my pistol skills cause i was thinking it would be fun to be a sniper. Boy was i wrong. Im still a novice rifleman but come on. a few things


I - Cover **edit** does this do other than give u extra attcks? Cover should cover you as in you cant see me now haha .


II - Along with cover we should get camo packs like the one profession does but should work in pve and pvp. OR at least have a 10m or so range for the enemy to be able to see us in cover mode. And we we shot they should see us but only them.


III - Pistols and carbines and rifles should have diffrent max ranges. pistols are for close combat they should be like 30m max range, Carbines should be 45m and rifles should get the 64.


IV - How can a pistol Be so much stronger than a rifle? 300 dmg on a fwsg(what ever it is) is just kinda stupid yes they should fire the fastest but 300 dmg unsliced? If this is so a rifle should have 1200+ max dmg unsliced.


V - The 2.5x melee dmg is fine after all we should die if they get that close. BUT where is are 2.5x we hit you with a rifle dmg? who cares if we hit mind oh wait we cant hit anythign at all


VI - How can the rilfe be the most inaccurate? if somone moves we cant hit it and if they move towards us we die.


VII - Rifles should have a slow fire rate than every other gun. the dev adding the 3 sec this seams fair but its not. Once again we cant hit anything and everything can hit us.


VIII - If cover made you hiden this would make the anti cover things move usefull. as in "enemy at the gates" type of thing


IX - There should be camo kits for riflemen they should have one for each planet (already in game just another class Pve only) these need to be for pvp, maybe pve to but not as needed. should have verying raneg effect like a novice can be seen up to 40m away but a master can be seen only at 10m away.


X - More for all classes but where is are elite master wepons? we should be bale to get at least one more super wepon at master. maybe not so supper but you get my point. i want a sniper rifle *grumbles* would be cool.


XI - Incress the % to hit on moving objets for riflemen. We are elite the few the proud arnt we? this is suppose to be 1 shot 1 kill, not 1 shot 1 miss i die. Come on now thats why we all did chose rifleman to hit the mind and if your head is hit you die 99% of the time. Yes there are freaks out there with bullets in there head.


i think that ends my rant thanks for reading




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Sicarim
Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:09 am
#2

dajavoo! It not just you.



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killerbeex40
Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:08 am
#3

no one has anything to say hehe



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AmonTdow
Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:33 am
#4

Good lord, between the spelling mistakes and grammer errors. You have some points.

My advice is, don't bitch about rifle till you hit the upper end. Novice riflemen are weak. But trust me, once you close in on master, you see the true power. Trust me.


Amon'Tdow
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Gazkan
Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:33 am
#5

Skilled riflemen are killinggorax's and kimoglia's solo.. unskilled ones are posting how much rifles suck.
AmonTdow
Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:36 am
#6

Plus like I said in another one of my posts, We AREN'T snipers. We are Riflemen. Repeat after me, WE ARE NOT SNIPERS! Last time I checked At master level we are Master Riflemen (sharpshooter) not Master Snipers.

The title of sniper means about as much as the title of Iron Chef. When you get the title of Iron Chef it doesn't mean you appear on T.V once a week for a cook off.
Aeniepo
Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:28 pm
#7

First of all... most of the complaints you have listed are written in the above top rifleman issues thread so this was just a personal wrant.


As for AmonTdow , I don't agree with your statement about the whole thing about the title is not "master sniper". You do get a title "Sniper", end of statement there. you have a whole tree of "concealment". So your statement about being a police sharpshooter and that it doesn't have alot of concealment / hideing tactics seemsa bit off. Besides the statement. you analogy seems flawed in the sense.. i'm pretty sure a police sharpshooter doesn't stand in the middle of the street yelling at the perp to lay down.. I would almost bet that he conceals himself on a roof top, or in a tree, or under a vehicle, etc, etc.Just making a point, not trying to flame.


But i do agree that concealment shoudl do something more useful. ( and realistic ) something along the lines that a rifleman withlevel 4 snipe and level 4 concealment should not show up on enemy radar in PvP/E until he / she is within 30m. And one other thing I don't see mentioned much if ever. that knock down should not work if the target is already prone. I love getting KDed when i'm prone or kneeling.. doesn't make a lot of sense.


Flame away!!!





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Seventhfret
Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:00 pm
#8

"Enemy at the Gates" Man, I loved that movie. Too bad the Germans spoke English.



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Raloorn
Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:51 pm
#9

first - amon get master before you start berating lower level riflemen kthx.


Secondly yes titles mean nothing but look at skill lines


Sniping accuracy


Concealment useful for a sniper


counter Sniping - stop a sniper with a sniper


3 lines that deal with sniper.


ThirdDo NOT say "we're not snipers" unless you have a quote from the Devs saying basically "riflemen aren't supposed to be Snipers" ... I know i can definately pull a quote out of the devs saying "to make the riflemen more Sniperish"


kthxbye.




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Fidlaf
Wed Oct 01, 2003 6:10 pm
#10

Well, Im not happy about the 3 second rule either... But im NO master (2,0,0,2) RIFLEMAN and 2,2,0,0 CH and I solo endor all day, I solo Kimo's on Lok. Of course I use spice, food, Pups, sliced weapons, and whatever else I can get my hands on, but If I see it my first reaction is "I bet I can Kill that". We ARE getting Nerfed, and that sucks, but I also see some balancing issues taking place, things are changing, give it 6 months to settle down a little... well, 5 months since the game has been out 1 month already.


I used to be a Pistoleer, and was no where near as tough as a rifleman, but thats my fault, I just didn't play a pistoleer as well. Hang in there guys and lets hope they buff the T21 this patch A LOT.




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eaze
Wed Oct 01, 2003 9:33 pm
#11

So many ppl talk about not being able to hit their targets, I mean seriously in PvP in Theed (whereI find being Overt Imperial quite fun) I actually do hit 90% of my -50 Shots on pvp targets when being chased or vice versa.


I DEFINATELY agree on Masters of their Eltie fighting professions being Certified in a Masters weapon, a Novice BH/Commando can use what they do and dont need any better we all know this... But I mean Pistoleers use the Fwg5 religiously, Carbineers tend to use Laser Carbines and I try to use my T21 but we also know other rifles are more useful in so many areas... sucks eh?


Conceal ourselves - yes


MoxinSarb
Wed Oct 01, 2003 10:32 pm
#12

I dislike 3x damage (That's just stupid, I mean, seriously... 3x? 2x is a lot, let alone 3x...) and most T-21's hit for crap. Headshot3 is borked. I get around 1.7k max, usually around 1.4k. Makes me sad my pistoleer friends can hit for 2-2.7k every 2 seconds (or less)...

Ypiana
Wed Oct 01, 2003 10:37 pm
#13

You will have far less complaints once you hit master rifleman. Takecover is totally bugged and is supposed to be a huge part of rifleman. Once it's fixed a lot of options will open up.


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