Rifleman Archive

The 3.0 cap thing was something mentioned as a possibility back in like October which nobody seems to want to drop. Will rifleman be nerfed... Well probably. They are rebalancing combat, and in that balancing, we'll probably take a few whacks from the bat. I just hope its something like higher HAM costs and lower defenses instead of just taking away our DPS.

Noone knows for sure for at least another month. However xors believes he does know thanks to seeing the corr forum some time back and if that is to be believed then yes. But I wouldn't put too much weight behind that nor simply give something up without even trying. Who knows what else is happening to other people in publish 8, the whole system is being reworked so I would save judgement until then and master a prof now to see how it turns out. You may end up rolling boxcars/natural 20 depending on your geekyness.

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Galacticspaceferett wrote:

I hope they cap the speed at 3.0, makes rifles more realistic. Afterall, speed should be pistol then carbine then rifle, as intended before. Riflemen got it great right now anyways, back in the day we werent so lucky =) .

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Not every rifle is bolt action, some are fully automatic and with hair triggers making them many times faster then a pistol. However I really don't care. I would prefer to know all the information before damning everything and everyone. Besides I say keep us the way we are but nerf the T-21 a little bit moreand give us a newgun that is asniper rifle equivalent so we can play as toned down carabineers or snipers. Depending on what is eqiupped.

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DarthMaul73 wrote:

I personally think we need a correspondent who actually pays attention to our class, instead of Jedi (and his).

We're going to get nerfed to hell, while Klawgena is out farting around on Jedi, and still trying to get the Jedi correspondent title from ArjunThakur.

Just my .02 . I can name four or five rifleman from day 1 on tarquinas who could do a far superior job of looking out for our interests then our current rep.

While we are being lined up to get nerfed to oblivion, he's worried about our f'in titles. for the love of all things holy, what kind of PvPing noob rolls around with titles anyway??

Gillies

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He is a mouthpiece for the developers. He gets the info they want and they block out what they don't want to hear. No matter who the correspondent was the entire system isa failed PR stunt and most people know that. Just think of the few that quit out of disgust thanks to the lack of communication and actual implementation. They gave us all a middleman but lock them in a meeting room...around the corner...out of the way.

As for titles, it really doesn't matter anymore thanks to the /examine window and your weapon of choice giving it all away.

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PsychoticChipmunk wrote:

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DarthMaul73 wrote:

I personally think we need a correspondent who actually pays attention to our class, instead of Jedi (and his).

We're going to get nerfed to hell, while Klawgena is out farting around on Jedi, and still trying to get the Jedi correspondent title from ArjunThakur.

Just my .02 . I can name four or five rifleman from day 1 on tarquinas who could do a far superior job of looking out for our interests then our current rep.

While we are being lined up to get nerfed to oblivion, he's worried about our f'in titles. for the love of all things holy, what kind of PvPing noob rolls around with titles anyway??

Gillies

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He is a mouthpiece for the developers. He gets the info they want and they block out what they don't want to hear. No matter who the correspondent was the entire system isa failed PR stunt and most people know that. Just think of the few that quit out of disgust thanks to the lack of communication and actual implementation. They gave us all a middleman but lock them in a meeting room...around the corner...out of the way.

As for titles, it really doesn't matter anymore thanks to the /examine window and your weapon of choice giving it all away.

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Galacticspaceferett wrote:

I hope they cap the speed at 3.0, makes rifles more realistic. Afterall, speed should be pistol then carbine then rifle, as intended before. Riflemen got it great right now anyways, back in the day we werent so lucky =) .

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From what I understand from other posts the T21 is supposed to be a full-auto rifle, not a sniper rifle, which with our speed modifiers it is. Last I checked an M-16 in cyclic has a rate of fire of 800 rounds per minute, over 10 per second. Burst rate of 90, which is still faster than 1 per second. The M-4 carbine is basically a snub nose M-16 from what I can determine and has the same rate of fire stats. Semi automatic pistols rate of fire depends entirely on the skill and strength of the user. You can pop off rounds pretty quick with a .22 with good accuracy, but try to do the same thing with a 50 cal Desert Eagle. Probably going to shoot a little slower due to recoil. But lets say for arguments sake that a skilled pistoleer can shoot at a rate of 1.5 rounds per second.

What this boils down to is everybody is shooting at the same speed.

Rifles do more damage because of larger rounds and longer barrels.

Carbines are easier to target things with and hit hard, but not as hard as rifles due to shorter barrel.

Pistols have good accuracy while standing and running, and provide the user much more mobility due to thier smaller size and weight.

So, umm, yeah, why are we supposed to shoot slower again?

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Eaca wrote:

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Galacticspaceferett wrote:

I hope they cap the speed at 3.0, makes rifles more realistic. Afterall, speed should be pistol then carbine then rifle, as intended before. Riflemen got it great right now anyways, back in the day we werent so lucky =) .

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From what I understand from other posts the T21 is supposed to be a full-auto rifle, not a sniper rifle, which with our speed modifiers it is. Last I checked an M-16 in cyclic has a rate of fire of 800 rounds per minute, over 10 per second. Burst rate of 90, which is still faster than 1 per second. The M-4 carbine is basically a snub nose M-16 from what I can determine and has the same rate of fire stats. Semi automatic pistols rate of fire depends entirely on the skill and strength of the user. You can pop off rounds pretty quick with a .22 with good accuracy, but try to do the same thing with a 50 cal Desert Eagle. Probably going to shoot a little slower due to recoil. But lets say for arguments sake that a skilled pistoleer can shoot at a rate of 1.5 rounds per second.

What this boils down to is everybody is shooting at the same speed.

Rifles do more damage because of larger rounds and longer barrels.

Carbines are easier to target things with and hit hard, but not as hard as rifles due to shorter barrel.

Pistols have good accuracy while standing and running, and provide the user much more mobility due to thier smaller size and weight.

So, umm, yeah, why are we supposed to shoot slower again?

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Because the current buff system trivializes HAM costs and where before we could last for 10 shots then be spent we can keep going and going and going. Other profs were meant to be able to stim away their costs since you could stim away the damage, we couldn't heal since they couldn't heal however now the unhealable pool is one of, if notthe, most useful and we can attack it without discretion. I personally don't see how that is our problem and not that of the buffs, foods, and spices but it's too late for that.

PsychoticChipmunk Exactly. The Buffs are out of control. I can wear a full suit ofthe Best armor the Server provides(80% to everthing 40% to Stun), Spam our most expensive HAM using Special(HS 3) for a hour straight, and Still not use 1 point of HAM once.

Why are there only a few people who think this is crazy? Hell Taurin even Said "Sounds like you got a good system."(Dev incharge of Exploits).

Is the world MAD!?!?!?

yes the ham is crazy that it can cost nothign for specails but thats not my issue mine is witht he keeping peopel itn eh dark, the lies and the lack of back bone KW has shown.

A'rien