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Thread: Wunna know what PvP is like now?

TekDragon
Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:00 pm
#1

Me: *creep up Anchorhead hill*
Me: *creep*
Me: *creep*
Me: *Spot an overt rebel standing around*
Me: "Ooooh yeah... what a nice juicy target."
Me: *pulls out laser rifle*
Me: "Your going down.."
Me: *Aim*
Me: *Headshot3 for 1/4 mind*

Rebel: "**edit**? Did a flea just bite me? Oh, i see.. its one of those gimped riflemen! Go ahead Mr Rifleman, ill give you another free shot"


Me: *headshot3 for 1/4 mind*


Rebel: "Hahaha! Go ahead, take ANOTHER shot!"


Me: *headshot3 for 1/4 mind*


Rebel: Ok, im bored. Now let me show you how a REAL sniper does it
Rebel: *pulls out pistol*
Rebel: *knockdown at 63 meters*
Rebel: *shoot shoot shoot shoot shoot shoot shoot*


Me: *Dead*

Rebel: "Hahaha! Commandoes are more of a challenge than you. You SUCK!"






Well, i guess I know what my main PvP macro will be:


BURST RUN


*sigh*





TekDragon DeSol
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ZombieBunny
Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:09 pm
#2

Seriously, they need to give riflemen better protection against knockdowns if thats whats gonna be happening... riflemen dont even have a knockdown skill themselves. Either that or make cover give some kinda boosted protection against knockdown and similar skills... not like cover is that useful in pvp anyway.

AldeonAvardulin
Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:13 pm
#3

PvP isnt about soloing, its about grouping. If you want to solo, you are gonig to spend alot of time in the cloning facility. Learn and adapt.




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Massanas
Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:23 pm
#4

being a sniper is about being solo though. You dont go out with a bunch of sniper buddies and all gather around and shoot at the same target.



If you are prone you shouldnt be able to be knocked down thats a bunch of bs. Your already laying on the ground how the hell is it going to knock you on your ass? Seriously. In any universe game or what ever. Your already on your stomache.



knock down should only work under 15m imo. And it should never work if your already prone

ZombieBunny
Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:24 pm
#5

Well sometime your bound to be alone and encounter enemy factions... and even when grouping those knockdowns are kinda annoying. They are a bit overpowered and not that fun really... no one wants to spend their time on the floor and getting kicked.
Muthaluva
Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:24 pm
#6

If i read this right, our rifleman had 3 shots off before he was shot at, and was promptly spammed to death (from a range generally considered to be the rifleman's home turf). I fail to see how the 'solo' vs 'group' argument applies. While I can see merit in your response, I fail to see how said response has any merit at all in this situation. Would you care to elaborate, or explain what our rifleman should have done, or what he did so glaringly wrong? My first guess? He pulled the trigger thinking he had a chance to win from MAX RANGE. SHAME on Mr. Rifleman. SHAM, SAME, SHAME.
ZombieBunny
Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:27 pm
#7

Yeah prone really should protect against knockdown... maybe something to take up with the devs? Somekinda prone/cover defense bonus against knockdown?
AldeonAvardulin
Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:34 pm
#8

If Im reading that right you had 3 shots, now why didnt you strafe shot 2 times? If you were wondering that kills them.


Snipers usually go in 2 in real life, 2 rifleman is better then 1. Tek, Im doing everything I can to decrease pistols range, stop **edit**ing blaming me. Its my job to report it, SOEs job to fix it. Read my posts, I even said it was my fault, they didnt understand. Maybe my wording was bad, I dont know I thought I explained it enough, but I get some bull **edit** answer that I dont even know what there talking about.


Tek, I test everyday, Im not about to go test the entire time Im on, Ive done logs for pistol accuracy just not styles left. Ive done more then any other correspondant out there. We arent at the **edit**ing bottom, I solo'd 4 Rebels today, why? becuase I know how to play my class, you know what, one of them was a master smuggler. You know another thing, one of them was a pistol bounty hunter. I 2 shot them all, while it takes them 5-10 shots on me. Kill the guy with knockdown first and you win. Go play the **edit**nig game and stop whining. I swear everything you post is a whine, stop looking at our faults, and look at what we have that is Awsome, becuase we are awsome out there. I can take people down in 2 shots with a DLT20a for christs sakes. A DLT20a...you know what I can do if a T21 was fixed. I can still one shot people with a T21, there is no doubt in my mind.


Go get a new class if its broken so much, becuase I pvp everyday, when I logged on today at 9 am, I went and PvPed, when I logged of at 4pm, I was still PvPing. We are the #3 maybe #2 class out there, and wait until we get fixed T21s....


Patiens is a **edit**ing virtue, alot of this stuff cant be done in one day. Im tired of your pointless posts, and whining.




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AldeonAvardulin
Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:35 pm
#9

Tek, your just another person who wants to always win, face it you dont always win. Learn to play and you will win half the time.



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Aisle
Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:37 pm
#10

PvP for a rifleman is a lot like being a girl during missionary sex, which is of course flat on your back. Rifleman are supposed to be snipers in this game. Snipers aren't about spray and pray type of tactics. Snipers are about single precise shots. The penalty for being a rifleman in PvP is supposed to be the unreliability of the rifle damage. You would shot and pray you didn't get one of those lame 67 damage shots. But then the advantage was supposed to be how you could essentially one shot kill with a small degree of luck. Rifleman is about those two extremes, either the shot and no damage, or shot and all damage. Pistols and carbines are more for the 'if I can stay alive to get off 10 shots I'm good' type of profession.
Swiller
Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:43 pm
#11

'PvP isnt about soloing, its about grouping. If you want to solo, you are gonig to spend alot of time in the cloning facility. Learn and adapt."


Let me be the first person to scream BS. He caught a player off guard and used range to attack them, What other factor do you need as a sniper. His prey should have been at the cloning terminal after the 1st hit. Because if he missed the dewd would have owned him.


Well it looks as if it did. Sony only gimped us even more with the new content patch. Real snipers do it solo.

AldeonAvardulin
Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:46 pm
#12






Swiller wrote:

Let me be the first person to scream BS. He caught a player off guard and used range to attack them, What other factor do you need as a sniper. His prey should have been at the cloning terminal after the 1st hit. Because if he missed the dewd would have owned him.


Well it looks as if it did. Sony only gimped us even more with the new content patch. Real snipers do it solo.






You guys have to realize, a game were there areno 1 shots is alot funner PvP. Who wants to play were a guy one shots you and you dont have a chance to fight back? If someone can one shot, everyone will flock to that class. It requires skill and tactics if there are no one shots, the only thing left to be changed is knockdown, pistol accuracy at 64m, and adding a /stick command for melee. Then PvP is perfect.



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Muthaluva
Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:46 pm
#13

Well, I called BS first, but I was polite. I guess poilteness doesn't warrant a response around here. I'll learn for next time
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