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Thread: OMG Master Rifleman is SOOOOOooo powerful

StandUpWookie
Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:15 am
#1

I have a MR/master Doc on one server. Taht was/is my primary char. But I have started other chars on other servers. One is a melee, and the current on is a commando. I liked the idea of doing massive heavy weapon damage with flame throwers, etc.


But while trying to grind through other combat professions, I ALWAYS compare it to my MR and everything falls way way short (cept jedi) for PVE.


There is no reason to dabble in Rifleman period. We basically use strafe2, headshot3 and thats about it. Using a good AP3 t-21 on just about any mob in the game (minus spell protectors, etc) is just INSANE.


I dont even NEED armor for kinetic only mobs. Just buff myself and get mind buffed or brandy and one second spam SS2.


Im sure this is not intended buuut who cares, the game is so borked.


I guess MR has spoiled me so much that all other comabt combos just cant stack up. Its embarassing how much damage we catually do in PvE, but I like it!!


Well, I will still grind commando and hopefully at Master level it will be "close" to my MR dps but I somehow doubt it.


This isnt a troll post, just an observation by the way. I mean should we really be this powerful? (I hope the answer is

yes too)


SUwookie


Waste93
Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:42 am
#2

Try Master Heavy Swordsman. They are generally considered the PvE kings. With CoB and a their secondary defense of CounterAttack (which is currently acting like Dodge) you'll be doing the same as you are now with Master Rifle without armor.


It's a good melee profession for PvE. But so is TKA.



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VengfulOne
Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:58 am
#3

Shhhhh!! Don't let the devs know!



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XaverriJade7
Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:02 pm
#4






StandUpWookie wrote:

I guess what I am trying to say is that buffs/food/weapons made riflemen very Uber...I mean, we havent really had anything changed since day one (cept the bleed nerf).




I count 2 fixes(plus our new weapons) and 5 or more nerfs. We've changed, but not in any way to make us as good as we are now. Buffs and armor(for the 297064326502365 time) are what has 'overpowered' us.






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FuriousStyle
Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:03 pm
#5

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Fred_Skinner
Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:29 pm
#6






StandUpWookie wrote:

Im sorry be we ARE uber. Maybe a little less Uber now that NPC specials are in.






Drop all your other combat profs, including any other marksman trees and then tell me how "uber" you are. Walk a mile in my shoes there, and I bet you change your tune.


I truely hope the devs take all this into consideration or poor game hunters like me will be left out in the cold...




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XaverriJade7
Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:40 pm
#7

<----MR/MAS now. Very non-uber. Ihear youFred





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Waste93
Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:24 pm
#8






StandUpWookie wrote:


Swordsman need armor.




Don't think so. I was a 0/4/4/4 Swordsman and didn't need armor. Just some buffs and run a CoB macro and you're good in most cases.I also am a Master TKA. I frequently go without armor. I was taking out group of four Rancors at a time with no armor.




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Kgboutlaw
Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:25 pm
#9

riflemen used to look uber til jedi came along with no resists to their damage....now as master rifleman i get owned by jedi without scratching them



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Wabit
Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:02 pm
#10






StandUpWookie wrote:


I guess what I am trying to say is that buffs/food/weapons made riflemen very Uber...I mean, we havent really had anything changed since day one (cept the bleed nerf).





hmmm... we've changed alot since day one...


remember the 2.5 melee damage mod???


remember when there was only like 1 T21 per server and it was a lootedPOS...


tuscan rifles were kinetic


T-21 was blast


when we had only one working special



yep rifleman was always uber... before buffs and food became standard it was great getting killed by a nest of chuba's even midway through rifleman...


we were broke then we got fixed... one of the few professions that work... give us back a 2.5 melee dam mod and see how many rifleman stick around... not many cause getting hit by a rancor/gurreck/mokk for 2k damage better shore ya don't get hit twice cause say hello to the clone center...


for those that have no clue what i'm talking about... feel lucky, it was painful... we got fixed cause even smuggler used to be better than us...


MR does rule, but what do you do when there is nothing left to kill??? only thing i have left to solo w MR is a gorax and stoneskin handrake... i had to learn to be smart about hunting back in the old days... nows its just a strafe2 or HS2 (HS3 for krytes and such)... i'm just happy the npcs got their specials back... it makes the game interesting again... but any smart master combat pro can kill everything in the game... i don't use concealshot, or have CMeither thats just no fun... we don't need a nerf we need the complete CB to come out, things will change then...


but posts like this give the nerfhearders more ammo... i don't care anymore, i just want the game itself to be interesting again...


i just noticed that i'm a community elder, what does that mean???

Message Edited by Wabit on 08-11-2004 11:03 PM



I can just see a "Wait for the Combat Revamp" and "Wait for the Smuggler Revamp" quote all rolled into one.
"Wait for the Smuggbat Revamp"
Smuggbat, I like that
RebRifle
Wed Aug 11, 2004 9:09 pm
#11

Ya i am seriously doubting these people are rifleman.
Wabit
Wed Aug 11, 2004 9:42 pm
#12

Fred i love your pics... have ya found the hotspring on endor??? lovely place... when i get home i'll post the WP...



I can just see a "Wait for the Combat Revamp" and "Wait for the Smuggler Revamp" quote all rolled into one.
"Wait for the Smuggbat Revamp"
Smuggbat, I like that
osefaca
Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:14 pm
#13






Waste93 wrote:

Try Master Heavy Swordsman. They are generally considered the PvE kings. With CoB and a their secondary defense of CounterAttack (which is currently acting like Dodge) you'll be doing the same as you are now with Master Rifle without armor.


It's a good melee profession for PvE. But so is TKA.






A master rifleman speed capped will out damage 2 master swordsman speed capped, i know this because it has happened before. As far as melee professions go, TKA is pretty weak in pve, the entire profession is kind of useless except for the meditate tree. In pve swordsman will out damage it and in pvp fencer will beat it any day. Just my 2 cents.
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