Rifleman Archive
Thread: How to hit a Jedi?
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SKinnerHAF
Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:04 am
#1
Ive had master rifle for about a month... and im loving it. I have a great time till jedi show up. I can dish out a good deal of damage to any player, but I just cant hit jedi (due to their 85% block). any tactics on actually hitting one? It frusturates me to take down a group of 5, only to get killed by one single player. Do area attacks... or any certain attack have better chances of hitting one?
CrashNgoBoom
Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:02 am
#2
If you wanna hit a jedi, pick up a melee skill. Even though Starwars is all about blasters, bounyhunters, and jedi, melee gets all the glory in this game. (unless you want looting rights, hehe)
Jasef
Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:18 am
#3
Well, my adivce for jedi is this:
Use Strafe2, Damages more pools, costs more force to heal them, once the Jedi hits 0 Force he's in trouble. I'm also a CM, so I don't need to hit him, unless he has healer in his template, since he'll be so worried about my poisons, I can get him easily. Killed Six jedi Yesterday ^_^
Use Strafe2, Damages more pools, costs more force to heal them, once the Jedi hits 0 Force he's in trouble. I'm also a CM, so I don't need to hit him, unless he has healer in his template, since he'll be so worried about my poisons, I can get him easily. Killed Six jedi Yesterday ^_^
Message Edited by Jasef on 12-21-2004 06:18 AM
Mauddib77
Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:25 am
#4
SKinnerHAF wrote:
Ive had master rifle for about a month... and im loving it. I have a great time till jedi show up. I can dish out a good deal of damage to any player, but I just cant hit jedi (due to their 85% block). any tactics on actually hitting one? It frusturates me to take down a group of 5, only to get killed by one single player. Do area attacks... or any certain attack have better chances of hitting one?
Its really hard to take on a jedi 1v1 with a rifleman, even though i'm accuracy capped and on citrus snow i still hardly ever hit them.
Best bet though is to spam flushing shot 2, if you can stun them their block skill goes down allot, better idea is to hunt with a tka that
can stun the jedi for you and keep them busy while you hit strafe 2 as fast as you can. Good luck!
Jasef
Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:29 am
#5
Mauddib77 wrote:
SKinnerHAF wrote:
Ive had master rifle for about a month... and im loving it. I have a great time till jedi show up. I can dish out a good deal of damage to any player, but I just cant hit jedi (due to their 85% block). any tactics on actually hitting one? It frusturates me to take down a group of 5, only to get killed by one single player. Do area attacks... or any certain attack have better chances of hitting one?
Its really hard to take on a jedi 1v1 with a rifleman, even though i'm accuracy capped and on citrus snow i still hardly ever hit them.
Best bet though is to spam flushing shot 2, if you can stun them their block skill goes down allot, better idea is to hunt with a tka that
can stun the jedi for you and keep them busy while you hit strafe 2 as fast as you can. Good luck!
It's not your Accuracy that impairs you from hitting them, it's their Saber block that blocks nearly all of you shots. When you do hit however, with a 700 Max T21 with Heavy AP vs. someone who's unmitigated, without armor, it's for around 500-1000 Damage.
Ackehece
Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:29 am
#6
Jasef wrote:
Mauddib77 wrote:
SKinnerHAF wrote:
Ive had master rifle for about a month... and im loving it. I have a great time till jedi show up. I can dish out a good deal of damage to any player, but I just cant hit jedi (due to their 85% block). any tactics on actually hitting one? It frusturates me to take down a group of 5, only to get killed by one single player. Do area attacks... or any certain attack have better chances of hitting one?
Its really hard to take on a jedi 1v1 with a rifleman, even though i'm accuracy capped and on citrus snow i still hardly ever hit them.
Best bet though is to spam flushing shot 2, if you can stun them their block skill goes down allot, better idea is to hunt with a tka that
can stun the jedi for you and keep them busy while you hit strafe 2 as fast as you can. Good luck!
It's not your Accuracy that impairs you from hitting them, it's their Saber block that blocks nearly all of you shots. When you do hit however, with a 700 Max T21 with Heavy AP vs. someone who's unmitigated, without armor, it's for around 500-1000 Damage.
also - there is no such thing as an accuracy cap. Saber block works 85% of the time no matter what - accuracy has no bareing on the effectiveness of saber block unlike other secondary defences.
Jasef
Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:34 am
#7
Jasef wrote:
Mauddib77 wrote:
SKinnerHAF wrote:
Ive had master rifle for about a month... and im loving it. I have a great time till jedi show up. I can dish out a good deal of damage to any player, but I just cant hit jedi (due to their 85% block). any tactics on actually hitting one? It frusturates me to take down a group of 5, only to get killed by one single player. Do area attacks... or any certain attack have better chances of hitting one?
Its really hard to take on a jedi 1v1 with a rifleman, even though i'm accuracy capped and on citrus snow i still hardly ever hit them.
Best bet though is to spam flushing shot 2, if you can stun them their block skill goes down allot, better idea is to hunt with a tka that
can stun the jedi for you and keep them busy while you hit strafe 2 as fast as you can. Good luck!
It's not your Accuracy that impairs you from hitting them, it's their Saber block that blocks nearly all of you shots. When you do hit however, with a 700 Max T21 with Heavy AP vs. someone who's unmitigated, without armor, it's for around 500-1000 Damage.
Bah, i forgot... AP doesn't matter for sh!t against an unarmored opponent, since they have no armor rating.
Barb-Wire
Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:42 am
#8
need about 4+ people to effectively overload saber block.
if the jedi has defender you will need accuracy to get past their ranged defense then saber block has to be successfully bypassed.
if you a lone rifle user its best not to try unless the jedi is enganged with something else. use the highest damage weapon you can and start shooting when they are weakening. those are your best bets.
Barb-Wire
Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:43 am
#9
oh one other thing... a lot of jedi like to duel end eventually one will incap the other if your a bounty hunter sniper shot at that point might just earn you quite a few creds...
Jasef
Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:49 am
#10
Barb-Wire wrote:
need about 4+ people to effectively overload saber block.
if the jedi has defender you will need accuracy to get past their ranged defense then saber block has to be successfully bypassed.
if you a lone rifle user its best not to try unless the jedi is enganged with something else. use the highest damage weapon you can and start shooting when they are weakening. those are your best bets.
In 90% of the cases, some nice DoT's help too. Not many jedi have cures in their template, and even less have fire cures...
Barb-Wire
Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:24 am
#11
Jasef wrote:
Barb-Wire wrote:
need about 4+ people to effectively overload saber block.
if the jedi has defender you will need accuracy to get past their ranged defense then saber block has to be successfully bypassed.
if you a lone rifle user its best not to try unless the jedi is enganged with something else. use the highest damage weapon you can and start shooting when they are weakening. those are your best bets.
In 90% of the cases, some nice DoT's help too. Not many jedi have cures in their template, and even less have fire cures...
indeed especially if your hunting pre-knight jedi dots can be a huge benefit. land both your mind dots and whatever else you have. most grinding jedi dont go for the heals till the end. and there are few master healers that can heal fire. but then i think fire should be the sole domain of the commando. most jedi DO end up with 4004 healer which lets you cure every state and dot up to fire.
i just hope the super dot weapons get a huge nerf in the revamp. not because i am jedi but because it is hugely out of balance with the rest of the game and the intent of PVP across the board for all players.
Mauddib77
Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:46 am
#12
Ackehece wrote:
Jasef wrote:
Mauddib77 wrote:
SKinnerHAF wrote:
Ive had master rifle for about a month... and im loving it. I have a great time till jedi show up. I can dish out a good deal of damage to any player, but I just cant hit jedi (due to their 85% block). any tactics on actually hitting one? It frusturates me to take down a group of 5, only to get killed by one single player. Do area attacks... or any certain attack have better chances of hitting one?
Its really hard to take on a jedi 1v1 with a rifleman, even though i'm accuracy capped and on citrus snow i still hardly ever hit them.
Best bet though is to spam flushing shot 2, if you can stun them their block skill goes down allot, better idea is to hunt with a tka that
can stun the jedi for you and keep them busy while you hit strafe 2 as fast as you can. Good luck!
It's not your Accuracy that impairs you from hitting them, it's their Saber block that blocks nearly all of you shots. When you do hit however, with a 700 Max T21 with Heavy AP vs. someone who's unmitigated, without armor, it's for around 500-1000 Damage.
also - there is no such thing as an accuracy cap. Saber block works 85% of the time no matter what - accuracy has no bareing on the effectiveness of saber block unlike other secondary defences.
my understanding was that accuracy/accuracy while moving capped at +25 over master then food bonuses add to that. Yeah it won't effect saber
block but it will help against ranged defence and dodge moves if they have eaten some pie.
Krosc
Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:49 am
#13
AP does matter. For every level above their armor rating you get %25 increase in damage.
Jasef wrote:
Bah, i forgot... AP doesn't matter for sh!t against an unarmored opponent, since they have no armor rating.
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