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Which should I get? I have a lser rifle right now.. and it's pretty good.. Ithink 80-440 or something like that.. the hams aren't too bad. I heard T21s are not good about Hams.. are people sticking w/ the Laser or using the T21 dispite it's harsh penalties?

I'd like to get a T21, if I decide to, how much does one usually go for? And what quality should I look for?

depends on your server tbh...

i think my current is 7.5 166-444 31/39/67 (damage sliced - no pup) no sure how that compares to other peoples.. does the job fine for me however.

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I have to ask this question because I never used a T21.

-My laser rifle's HAM is 14-23-61

-The best Ham I've seen on a T21 is 39-31-67

When I use my spraystick 20-40-40, I notice I eat as more actionthan mind spamming specials.

So my question to the T21 users is this:

Do you chew through 3 HAM pools or only one when you use your T21?

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PyscoJuggalo wrote:
So my question to the T21 users is this:

Do you chew through 3 HAM pools or only one when you use your T21?

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I use a T21 - sliced to 501 max dmg 7.5 sec - I use eithermuzzle powerups (max +33.26 min +16)

or boosters (max +33.26 mind +16) Also keep several cases of muon gold on hand for those hefty battles. On the Gorath server I'd suggest Nisi Daca's shop outside theed.

Instead of muon try Breath of Heaven whcih is a Master Chef drink, The crates I picked up on Eclipse are +431 str, +440 quickness and + 440 Focus for 431 secodn (7 minutes). With that I can spam strafe 2 with my t21 and not drain much at all unles I have my armor on. With just Muon Gold I'd drain my action and Health real fast even though mind would regen as fast as I drained.

Other food/drink I've found useful - Ice Blaster +170 willpower for 249 sec, Veghash +139 Con for 178 sec+140 Stam, +140 willpower for 183 sec.

Without armor on these foods work great, with armor on for a large fight I can add Muon to the mix and I have no problems at all. If need be add Tat Sunburn, though you might not be able to drink it with the BoH and IB.

I'd stick with my 21 over a Laser any day. The Armor Pircing bonus mor ethan makes up for lasers getting better max damage, plus T21 has better min damage so it more consistant.

T21 with 425 max, sliced and a Laser with 800 max sliced on say a Canyon Krayt which is Heavy armor, 60% energy resist. Not usign a special and gettign a max damage hit.

T21 425 * 0.4 (dmg after resist reduction)=170 actual damage.

Laser 800 *0.5 (AP2vs AR3) = 400 * 0.4 = 160 actual damage.

As a master rifleman any rifle with a speed of 10 or less is firign at the 1 sec speed cap . speed * 0.1 (90% reduction). so my T21s which are 7.4 speed get reduced to 0.74 speed because I'm a master so an actual speed of 1 shot a sec due to speed cap if not using specials. So at master both rifles fire at the same speed.

The pup I'm using on my T21 is 30.14% max dmg, 14.849999% mind. So my 66 mind on the rifle so that's a 9 mind reduction. + 128 Max dmg for 553 max. With that the highest I've seen is 3800+ with strafe 2. If it's 7x dmg that's 3871 which sounds about right. I wish I had logged the combat.

So adding *7 to the same example for using strafe 2 on the canyon krayt.

T21 425*7 = 2975 * 0.4 = 1190 actual damage.

Laser 800*7 = 5600 *0.5 = 2800 * 0.4 = 1120 actual damage.

Now let's look at that on a mob with no armor but the same 60% energy resist. Using Strafe 2

T21 2975 *1.25 = 3718.75 *1.25 = 4648.4375 *1.25 = 5810.546875 *0.4 = 2324.22

Laser 5600* 1.25 = 7000*1.25 = 8750 * 0.4 = 3500

So as you see it all depends on the armor rating of the target. Anythign withmedium or lowerarmor the Laser would do more per shot if it's one of those with 800ish max damage and you got max damage on every shot. However, with lasers having less than half the min damage of a T21 that's a wide range so much less consistant.

All in all the T21 will have many more shots near max damage than the Laser thus a Laser's damage over time will end up being no better than T21 on targets with medium or lower armor. but for big game like Krayts, ATST, that AP 3 of the T21 really shines.