Rifleman Archive
Thread: BH's are out of control (link included)
If the BH's get what they want they pretty much be jedi with guns, which existed in expanded universe by the way. They're ideas are too much. I posted there b/c I was almost too shocked for words. READ this and you will be SHOCKED too.
Looks like they're wishing for everything and the moon, but that doesn't mean they're going to get it. When the Devs start listening to 'em, then I'll worry. Until then it's just a bunch of folks on a message forum with a wish list.
BH's want:
-healing abilities (isnt that a jedi ability?)
-new weapons at master (isnt that a jedi trait?)
-more ranged mods (isnt that a jedi trait?)
-lower ham costs (isnt that a jedi ability?)
anyone see the patern here?
they need to get originall material and stop copying things from the jedi forum
medic wont happen since they can spend 15 points like everyone else for novice medic nothing stopping em. every class asks for silly stuff. remember the pistoleer twirly gun thing??
weapon at master all classes should have a master only weapon that sets us appart from the lower ranks.
BH are weak in defense abysmally so. they need ranged defense mods which is what i think they are talking about.
soooooo how is that out of control or are you just ranting to make yourself feel better??
I agree, most of the things they are asking for are not out of control.
Weapons at master and HAM costs are concerns for alot of classes, including us at times.
Barb hit the medic nail square on the head.
Of course they are asking for defensive mods, it is one of the class weaknesses. They want it filled in just like alot of us have talked about the 2.5 melee penalty. (I disagree about getting rid of either)
So I don't really see out of control, not going to happen in a couple of cases, but not out of control.
What I also found funny was their lame proposed bounty system.
1. If now invincible BH kills you, you lose 1 rank.
2. If you manage to kill now invincible BH they lose 25 FP.
That's the stupidest thing I ever heard.
I forgot how much my Colonel promotion cost me, but it was somewhere between 6,000 and 8,000 fp.
The posted actually believes its fair for a basically invincible BH to cost 6,000-8,000 fp worth of damage to a mortal player at the risk of a mere 25 fp.
Tell you what, they can have that system when:
1. The T21 does 1,000,000 dps... on normal shot
2. Rifleman have 100% resists to all... at novice
3. Riflemen get a special +10,000 pts to all primary and secondary HAM
4. Killing a kreetle results in a gain of 10,000 fp
5. BH are made vulnerable to /sneeze so that a single one kills them instantly
-- A6
as much as I despise mandolo for being atroll, I wanted to respond.
for the record, BH ham costs on carbines are assinine. Carbineers have the same problem, make the same complaints, and don't get flamed for it.
The medic thing is an idiotic request. I certainly don't support it, and personally wish the subset of the bh community who's asking for it would shut up.
The weaps request is a lesser version. I also don't support it, but it's no different from riflemen asking for a different weapon now that tuskens and e11's are energy (though i thought E11's were always energy).
The ranged defense thing is an absolute joke. BH's get NOTHING for ranged defense, and by definition can not multi-dabble in defensive mods like pistoleers, carbineers, and riflemen (as well as melee'ers). It's a legitimate request in my mind
The player bounty thing is another joke. I can't see this happening at all.
So, the message here is this: not all of the BH community wants this stuff. I think a very vocal subset of them (us) are making these crazy wishlists, and the whole community is being flamed for it. That's subset is being driven by the whole "we spend 217 skill points and thisotherprofession spends 92 skill points..." issue.
*** the comments above reflect my views, and not the views of the BH community at large. This has beena public service announcement. The time is now 4:53 P.M. The local temperature is 72 degrees...
BlasterForHire wrote:
A reasonable BH. I'm impressed. Thought you guys were a dying breed. Seems like there are more and more Bounty Whiners posting. No offense meant. Just seems they are very vocal. I posted today in a thread where a BH claimed they were the weakest of the combat classes.
Wasn't the medical idea shot down by most BH's back when Wepps proposed it?
Most of the requests aren't reasonable. The Master level weapon one isn't that bad. But it would have to be done for all the combat classes. BH, Fencer, TKA, Rifle, etc. And it makes some sense. Right now once you hit novice you can use any of the weapons.
Yes your defensive mods aren't that good. I can see them increasing the mods some. But the main advantage of BH's is their offensive output. The variety, and good weapon specials,makes them a good combat class. But a small increase in defense may not be out of order.
HAM costs need to be looked at across the board. I know they are pretty bad for Carbineers which also means for BH's when using a carbine. But they are also extremely bad for us. The problem lies in the very low costs for Pistols. Then a huge increase for Carbine and Rifle. These need to be evened out.
One of the main things we BH's are talking about (not whining about) is CONTENT.Make our class more fun and not the long, boring, bugged, frustrating grind it is. Most of usjust want balance.
The BH community has been complaining since release and we've only recieved what? LLC damage and bulk droids.... big deal. This means nothing when all our Majorproblems have fallen on deaf ears.
-NOS-, your analogy above is misunderstood I have to say. Seems like you take offense to this post. I agree that some of the things are Far-Fetched and I know they will never be added. No need to flame over this. It's just wishful thinking.