Rifleman Archive
Thread: BH's are out of control (link included)
My current T21 has a mind drain of 111 base on specials. Didn't see the exact amount, but it looked like I was losing almost 300 / special.
-- A6
BH is a OFFENSIVE type profession, that can DABBLE in pistol giving them a +155 to accuracy, plus another +50 for using a special for a combined bonus of +205 accuracy. So at 64 meters using a scatter (-50 accuracy). A BH would hit someone with 150 range D, 92% of the time with a special. How many of you have 150 range D?
So I am to believe that a profession that can practicually hit EVERYONE at MAX range at will should have deffensive modifiers built into their profession? Sorry but SOE might fall for this BS, but I am raising the flag.
BH is just another combat profession and should have it's title changed. They aint BH's and that Jedi hunter crap is a joke.
SOE should just redo the whole dam profession and the BH Developer should do like a Samuri who dishonered themself.......... I gotthe knife you rotten baztard.
BH could have been an interesting content full profession that would have added to the Star Wars feel of this game. Instead its a commando with pistol and carbine skills.
Don't let me get started on smuggler.
It's just 12 years olds like this guy, who come up with a one-sided idea (which would have been a great idea if this weren't a MMORPG) and try to defend it as their born right.
The original poster of that thread doesn't even bother to take into consideration the effects those changes would have on other people in the big picture.
Sure players bounties sound fun, but with an extreme loss (1 rank) and a invincible BH? What's the point in that? There's no skill involved at that point so all there is to do is kill the mark then yell "I pwned j00 and j00r 8k fp r4nk!". That's what I think he really wants to do.
As an example, of missing the big picture, here's a common circle of problems with BH requests... I see this over and over again...
1. We want player bounties
2. Investigation is hard
3. Make us uber
Bam! And there it happenned. We just hit a game breaking problem. You can't become more uber without really messing up player bounties.
A better solution would be:
1. We went player bounties
2. Investigation is hard
3. Make it easier
OMG, did you just see what happenned? Investigation problem solved and the BH are now over powered (as they are now) instead of ridiculously overpowered.
Ofcourse there is a reason that scenario one seems to come up more than scenario two. The reason is because investigation IS AN EXCUSE.
Now again, this is not all BH, it's the ones making ridiculous requests like this one. What they're wanting is to just be even more powerful so they can own everyone without trying... I guess they're too used to playing FPS games in god-mode. I mean, look at the extreme loss to the victem requested in the player bounty... obviously the sole intention is to grief. Investigation, in this case, is merely an excuse in a sloppy attempt to justify these ridiculous amounts of power.
Finally, I'd like to conclude that I'm not slamming all BH... just unreasonable ones that think they're the only person playing the game.
-- A6
Up their defense?! Sometimes the best defense is a good offense and don't BH's have the goodest ( 
)offense in game?
As Arian said these are just morons that consider themselves the sole players who deserve to rule over others by divine right. While I don't like her destroying the economy on Bloodfin to an extent, she makes great points. Yes player bounties would be fun and a great implementation. Yes the investigation bug thing hasn't been fixed...thats just about all thats wrong with their class in comparison to others. Isn't fixing major bugs and balancing out the last tweaks of combat better then adding that request though?
Dont worry none of it is going to happen.... we get listened to much less than riflemen....
CARLITO Bh dont have the "goodest offence" in the game. Your thinking of the Pistoleer/bh pistol/smugglers. Those of use who choose to master the proffesion arent getting all the perks that the dabblers I listed above get, Yet we get catagorized as uber killers because of them.
That template up there will own me in a duel every time. Mabey its time for you to get them nerfed and not us real bounty hunters, Because 9 times out of 10 its one of them that killed you. Most of us real bounty hunters dont do a whole lot of pvp, because during that time, We are running around multiple planets trying to get that 100 investigation xp so that we can finnally wear the "less powerful than some tag".
Im not asking us to be the most powerful pvp character in the game. Im asking for skills to be able to take down a mark without a non-ch pet or probot.
That template up there will own me in a duel every time. Mabey its time for you to get them nerfed and not us real bounty hunters, Because 9 times out of 10 its one of them that killed you. Most of us real bounty hunters dont do a whole lot of pvp, because during that time, We are running around multiple planets trying to get that 100 investigation xp so that we can finnally wear the "less powerful than some tag".
more people need to understand this. the BH has to ***work*** to get to investigation. that's that line that makes you a BH, not the other 3.
Lets start our own thread. I demand Uzi type weapons for us, medium AP, duel wield, 0.5 spd, 1-400 damage, solid shell, or blue laser, counts as stun cause the sound is scary. When used with stopping shot we are unstoppable. Build in PSG that never decays. Auto heals when life is below 30%. O yeah, and it makes coffee, but not just any coffee, it buffs like a pixie w/o the downer and stackable with up to 10.
Just cause I post this doesnt mean its going to happen 
NOTE TO SELF: i am on the rifleman forum, not pistoleer. Change Uzi to any real like rifle you want, with 1-800 damage, and not stopping shot, flurry shot. That works, o, and the coffee also gives +1000 to all mind stats. better.
Maxiron wrote:One of the main things we BH's are talking about (not whining about) is CONTENT. Make our class more fun and not the long, boring, bugged, frustrating grind it is. Most of us just want balance.
The BH community has been complaining since release and we've only recieved what? LLC damage and bulk droids.... big deal. This means nothing when all our Major problems have fallen on deaf ears.
-NOS-, your analogy above is misunderstood I have to say. Seems like you take offense to this post. I agree that some of the things are Far-Fetched and I know they will never be added. No need to flame over this. It's just wishful thinking.
Let's assume you only want "more content" and not "becoming even more powerful and getting the possibility to grief other player".
If that would be the case, BH woudl still be the profession that should be LAST on the list of getting any attention, fixes or even "more content". In fact, BH are THE ONLY profession in game that can do a form of content that noone else can do. Doing BH missions. You may argue that they are very similar to normal missions. Yet, they are more complex and different, and are the "BH specific" content.
Now you will tell us it's not enough. I can't argue with that. However, look at all the other professions. Non of them can do anything similar like this. Everyone else can do "craft something", "take normal mission" or "take faction mission". Yeah, granted, Entertainer missions and artisan missions, but I don't think they can compare to BH missions. Certainly not in payout.
So, while I do agree that it would be nice to have more BH content, first I'like to see content added for professions that can't do anything profession specific right now, like the smugglers. Then, we all would like content that every profession, or at leasat every combat profession can enjoy. Of course, prior to any content, bugs should be fixed. And then, only then, I would say it's appropriate for one of the strongest combat classes and the only class with profession specific content to cry for more.
So, now that I have talked about that, let's get rid of the assumption in the beginning and face the fact that those changes would unbalance this game even more, would totally overpower you and would cause grief among other players. But I really don't know how to comment on this without insulting people...