Rifleman Archive

I filled out most of my lower-to-middle tier rifleman boxes back before their were very many riflemen on my server (Eclipse). Since I went without pets, it took me longer to fill out the last couple of level-3 and level-4 boxes. I had to go pay the trainer for every box. In case you haven't added that up, that is a LOT of money. Since I am at work I am thinking that it is 9x4 + 7x4 + 5x4 + 3x4 = 96K $ + Master Rifleman which I forget the cost (10K?). So anyway, over 100K $.

When people I dont know ask me to train them, I've charged a couple of times at 1/2 to 1/3 of what it would cost at the trainer. Sometimes I am in a hurry and just do it for free. How do the rest of you feel about this?

I think charging for training is fine and dandy as long as it is something agreed upon prior to the action. if the toon you are going to train understands that this is a business transaction, there should not be a problem. whenever i train anyone in anything, i make sure they know that a tip would be much appreciated. in truth though, at the moment i am mainly training to get the apprentice eeps. if it were not for the incap/death item damage thing being instated, i would even incap/commit suicide to get back to twon to train someone. boy do i need the apprenticeship for a couple of trees

you can take this on two different routes.

Yes to charge. I have paid for training. I needed an elite skill and found a master. He wanted 3k for the training. I gladly paid it. It beats the 8k i would have to pay for the trainer.

OR

Give it for free. I have gotten training for free. I alway tip 1k for any free training. But you run the risk of not being tipped. It is not a requirement to tip.

So do what you want. I don't see anything wrong with either. Of course it helps both of you. You need the App XP they need the skill box. If you are a master then maybe you don't. But you never know when you will need to master another profession. Personally, i don't ask for anything to train. I have been tipped all kinds of stuff. a skil tape with a +1 rifle accuracy, to 1k, to a crate of weapon pwr ups.

So in the end it is up to you. I will not fault you for asking a reasonable price. If it is too steep, I will not pay and get it elswere. Gotta love the market place.

I agree with the 2nd guy, except I still don't think you (or people in general) should charge people. Although it costed you money to train to start, it cost you nothing to teach people the skill. Mostly I just think it's a nice thing. I go with the Golden Rule. You probably didn't want to pay for the training when you were skilling, so you should bestow that gift upon others. Thats my reason for not charging for training, I find that about half non-Novice Profession players tip me 1000 credits for training anyway. Obviously you can give everything away for free (ie if you're a crafter).

Guess it depends on how you view it - as a Business Service, or a friendly service to other players. I provide these things as friendly services (and in many cases, training or healing players benefits you with XP so it's a mutual service).

I'm also a Doctor, I never charge people for heals or wound heals either. Obviously a lot people tip me for wound healing as a thank you, but my point is you can make back that money without saying "Ok, but I charge 3k for that training". People are often thankful for your services and repay you for your kindness anyways. It's sorta like I gave an armorsmith 30k for armor he was going to give me for free due to the time delay he took in making it, or giving the smuggler who gets that slice you were hoping for an extra 20k tip because now you don't need to buy new armor. What goes around comes around, that Master Smuggler has always and continues to charge me almost nothing for slices, and he even logs in his character just to do a slice for me. About the only thing I would charge people for out of my abilities (Pistol/Doctor) is Enhancements as those cost a lot of expensive resources to make, and it's not something I can just give away to anyone who wants them. Really anyone who has had good buffs can tell you it's worth the 5-6k Docs are charging for a fullset (one mission usually pays that off).

And since you say you were one of the first players, wouldn't you have made back or money from training or passively thru time doing missions etc? I could definitely see in the earlier stages of the game 6 months ago charging people since it was cheaper and servers were still young and so were you, but now not so much.

When it comes down to it, just do as you will.

I haven't ever charged for training... I don't mind if people do, but personally I have never had any trouble obtaining the credits that I need, and it seems to me that saving another player 5-10k will possibly benefit them a great deal while taking a short bit to train them is certainly no skin off my back.

Another thing that I have found is that generally "being nice" be it by training for free, giving away rifles that get a speed slice (novices need em, worthless to me), giving away extra harvests to medics, tipping entertainers/medics, etc. can really provide you with a mutually beneficial bond. I have about 3 doctors/CMs that are "friends for life" because of the amount of meat I have given them for med crafting. And to me, having a friend that I can call for help/buffing/whatever is much more longterm beneficial than making a few credits that I can pretty easily gain in other ways.

Of course, this is all just my opinion, and as I said I am really not *opposed* to charging for training... It just seems to me that it is possible to gain rewards beyond credits for being friendly and taking the time out to train folks for free.

I never charge but I always tip 10% of what the skill costs if you go to a trainer, 20% if your an imp.

I don't charge for training. It doesn't cost me anything to train somebody, and doesn't take much time.

Plus the more money that stays in the economy the better. The rifleman I train today might buy armor from the armorsmith I sell hides to tomorrow. He is less likely to do so if he has to give money to an NPC trainer.

Jamga Gibbrad

Huntmaster
Novice Rifleman
Novice Medic

I don't charge for training or have ever asked for money to train someone. Looking at it from any angle other than greed will show you there's no other way to do it.

I am currently 4143 in rifleman and the only time i charge for any type of training is when i have to go somewhere out of my way to train someone ie. they do a char search for rifleman and send me a tell and they are like 10k away lol

Other than that i dont have a problem training people for free, because as mentioned it only takes a few moments.

Btw does anyone know where i can get another Kick Butt Laser Rifle because my current 2 are about to poof /sniffle

The 2 ihave now are

6.3 92 597 28% 45 69 81

side note it was a great couple of slices which i paid inexcess gladly for i am on Corbantis sever so any wps wouldl be appreciated

I never charge for any training. Regardless of how much I paid to get where I am. I take apprentice points as enough payment, but sometimes I am tipped. Doesn't matter to me either way. But that's just me.

Train my faction for free, if you're the other, cash or not you're not getting it.

I'de pay for training, o wait,I can't,I have 10k to my name currently But seriously ifI couldI would find no problem paying for elites skill training.

-Chewon

1/0/1/1 Rifleman, 2/2/0/3 CH, Master Marksman, Master Medic

I have never charged anyone for training. And I paid for every skill box in the Rifleman tree because there were no riflemen around me to ask for training. (Except Aldeon but he was an imperial bleah!! )

Usually if I get tipped for training I accept it as a sign of respect for the person tipping me. If I feel the tip was too much for the skill trained (usually anything over 10-20% of what they would pay the Trainer is too much for me) I return it explaining that I really don't need the money.

The fact that people don't tip more is a shame. If you go and ask someone for a favor you should TRY to do something in return. Maybe you tell me up front you don't have much cash but you have some hide you could give me. Or do I need a copy of Rebel Orders 1/3 (cause you have 3 of them). I have never accepted training from a stranger without offering something in return.

From a roleplaying aspect I figure that if I am an expert with a Rifle and a young apprentice comes to me and asks for help with his sniping skills, I can spend a couple of minutes while we are at the shuttle waiting for departure giving him a few pointers. It costs me nothing, I'm just passing the time helping someone with similiar interests.