Rifleman Archive
Thread: Need Info On FS Mods
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Waste93
Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:12 pm
#1
Need some hard numbers on the FS mod issues.
I'll need to know what your Rifle Speed mod (from Rifleman) level is. If you have info on how fast you were firing at that time I'll need to know what the weapon base speed is and what you were firing at.
Also will need to know what your FS mods are. Also weapon base speed and what you were firing at with the FS mods.
The perfect test would be for anyone that has not yet gotten any FS mods. Fire a weapon to find the speed, preferably one that you can't fire at the cap. Then get the FS mods and fire the same weapon again. See what the results are.
I will also want to know which server you tested this on. In case it's an issue with certain servers or a live vs TC thing.
I haven't picked up any FS mods yet so will be doing this this weekend.
But I need hard numbers so I can give them to the appropriate people.
Thanx.
Message Edited by Waste93 on 09-09-2004 08:54 PM
Terance
Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:16 pm
#2
damn. . new i should have timed it before i picked it up =/
wait perhaps there is someway to help even tho i have no orgional set up to compare to?
Message Edited by Terance on 09-09-2004 07:20 PM
Waste93
Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:24 pm
#3
Actually you can. Since we know the speed formula post your Rifleman speed mod, FS speed mod, base speed of weapon, and approximate how fast you fire StrafeShot2 presently.
We can reverse run the numbers to see if they match up.
ZetaLancer
Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:37 pm
#4
I am a master rifleman with +90 rifle speed, and +12 enhanced rifle speed from the combat prowess fs tree.
Using a 7.5 speed rifle,I fire every 2-4 seconds using strafeshot2.
I do not recall the precise figures from before training in the fs skills, but I am almost certain it was the same rate of fire.
None of these figures are precise; just my memories from eyeballing the combat log. I'll post more results after I do a detailed test tomorrow.
And thank you very much for looking into this issue, Waste. Gotta love the wookie with the big gun. 
Waste93
Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:53 pm
#6
Thanx. I'll want as many people that can to give me the info. It would also help to narrow it down just in case it would be a bug that only affects some people.
Terance wrote:
i'll do it tomm =)
Wabit
Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:31 pm
#7
Waste the fact that ranged speed is broken, is across all ranged profs... from what i've read in several forums is that the +12 ranged speed does nothing... yet the +12 melee speed works... the odd thing is that the +12 melee speed works on commando weapons...
in all honesty if someone hasn't trained in ranged speed and still has a free unlock i'd hate to see them spend there free points on a skill that doesn't work... and if they are going for jedi is of no use to them in the first place...
i know you are lookin for info to help us get this fixed... but my confidance in the devs fixing this anytime soon isn't that great... i'll get ya some stats off of one of my toons if ya want them (non-FS)... the thing i'm curious about is the raned accuracy, does that work???? hard to tell at master cause i never miss as it is...
Wabit
DarthVillanus
Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:40 pm
#8
Ranged FS speed does not work at all. It should give you +12 Rifle speed if using a rifle, but it does not. On the other hand Melee FS speed works just fine giving players +12 melee speed to any profession.
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XaverriJade7
Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:45 pm
#9
I just tested this and it does seem like Enhanced Melee Speed is working for everyone.
I noticed an increase in speed with VKs since I got the melee speed line. I had +97 rifle speed, so I didn't notice a change in that. I had one free unlock, so I took melee speed. I do not have Enhanced Ranged Speed.
I replaced my rifle speed clothes with clothing that had no mods. I then used a few SS2s(7.7 speed T-21) on my CH friend's grauls. It seemed as if I was shooting at once per second or very close to it. He then used SS2s and it looked to be about 2.5 seconds between shots(7.8 speed T-21 with no extra mods, no MM, no FS skills)
I figured out how to turn on the timestamp thingy and here's what it said:
23:38:53 You use Advanced Strafe on <target> for xxx points of damage!
23:38:55 You use Advanced Strafe on <target>for xxx points of damage!
23:38:56 You use Advanced Strafe on <target> for xxx points of damage!
23:38:56 You use Advanced Strafe on <target> for xxx points of damage!
23:38:58 You use Advanced Strafe on <target> for xxx points of damage!
23:38:59 You use Advanced Strafe on <target> for xxx points of damage!
23:39:00 You use Advanced Strafe on <target>for xxx points of damage!
23:39:00 You use Advanced Strafe on <target> for xxx points of damage!
23:39:01 You use Advanced Strafe on <target> for xxx points of damage!
23:39:02 You use Advanced Strafe on<target> for xxx points of damage!
23:39:04 You use Advanced Strafe on <target> for xxx points of damage!
That means we have a bug for sure, I'd say.
Message Edited by XaverriJade7 on 09-10-2004 01:27 AM
Waste93
Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:05 pm
#12
Kez,
Thanx. Perfect info. Can anyone else confirm that melee mods are working for Rifles?
raandi
Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:44 pm
#13
I have a 9.0 speed tusken rifle. I did some testing without my speed clothes.
- I am +95 speed nakedsince I have Master Marksman.
- I DO have the FS enhanced ranged speed tree (Enhanced Ranged Speed +12).
- I do NOT have FS enhanced melee speed.
So i ought to be capped at an effective rifle speed of +107. here are the actual results, though. Shooting at a dewback with /strafeShot2 spammed, and withOUT my speed enhanced clothes equipped:
- 02:18:03 You use Advanced Strafe on a mountain dewback...
- 02:18:05 You use Advanced Strafe on a mountain dewback... +2
- 02:18:06 You use Advanced Strafe on a mountain dewback... +1
- 02:18:08 You use Advanced Strafe on a mountain dewback... +2
- 02:18:10 You use Advanced Strafe on a mountain dewback... +2
- 02:18:11 You use Advanced Strafe on a mountain dewback... +1
- 02:18:13 You use Advanced Strafe on a mountain dewback... +2
this averages out to about 1 shot every 1.666 seconds at riflespeed +95 on a 9.0 speed rifle
http://killyourpc.org/swg/swg_dps.php?weapon_min=88&weapon_max=133&weapon_speed=9.0&pc_speed=95&class=Rifle
according to the speed calculator on this website, i should be doing 1 shot per 1.6 seconds, if i have rifle speed of +95.
I have +12 Enhanced Ranged Speed. Where is my benifit?
for further testing, i put my +2 clothes back on, just for kicks.
- 02:34:58 You use Advanced Strafe on a mountain dewback...
- 02:34:59 You use Advanced Strafe on a mountain dewback... +1
- 02:35:00 You use Advanced Strafe on a mountain dewback... +1
- 02:35:01 You use Advanced Strafe on a mountain dewback... +1
- 02:35:02 You use Advanced Strafe on a mountain dewback... +1
http://killyourpc.org/swg/swg_dps.php?weapon_min=88&weapon_max=133&weapon_speed=9&pc_speed=97&class=Rifle
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