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Thread: All Non-Zabrak Riflemen...

SocialConformer
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:09 pm
#1

Ask customer service if you can pay to have your race changed, quitter.


I'm a Bothan and a rifleman. I don't seem to be having so many problems. Okay, so I can't regen my mind quite as fast. So what? My specials don't cost as much as a Zabrak. Okay, so my specials cost a lot more than a Mon Calamari. At least I'm not some googly eyed, rubbery skinned freakazoid. Yeah, I'm a crafter too, and I wish I had an extra experimentation point like the Mon Cals. Nerf the fish!


If the only reason you want to be a Zabrak is to be a powergamer, so be it.


If ALL crafters were Mon Cals and ALL doctors were Mon Cals and ALL riflemen were Zabrak...what would the point be?


By not being able to max your mind pools out as much, oh no! You don't get to gimp the rest of your stats in the process of maximizing the rifleman pools.


Do you know what the RPG in MMORPG means?


So immerse yourself in the Star Wars experience instead of trying to get all of the plusses on your side and maybe you'll have a better time.





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nihilix
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:09 pm
#2

does no one else find this slightly unfair?



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Previously Taidan Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Weaponsmith/Master Rifleman Bothan
Currently Taiden Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Doctor/soon to be Master Rifleman Human.
Selling newbie melon for 20 million credits
nihilix
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:12 pm
#3

didI say I want the plusses on my side? no, I want to be equal, like the devs said long ago. I'm not powergaming either, once again, I want it to be fair here.


This really isn't an rp issue.... and actually, there will be more zabrak and mon cal mind-oriented characters doing doctor and rifleman... but that's not the point.


And I don't want that 600 forced quickness, so I wouldn't be gimping myself my moving most of that into willpower or focus.




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Previously Taidan Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Weaponsmith/Master Rifleman Bothan
Currently Taiden Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Doctor/soon to be Master Rifleman Human.
Selling newbie melon for 20 million credits
Mavirick
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:30 pm
#4

Seems to me you are the kind of person that would be better off if the game was all humans, everyone used the same weapons had the same stats. The whole point of this game is diversity. There are supposed to be advantages to be a certain race or class. Otherwise why would anyone want to play the game. Granted we all cry when our class get's nerfed, but think about it. They has to be differences somewhere. If one class does not excel at one thing then we are missing a large part of the game. Every class and race fills a need in the game. I wish people would quit trying to make everyone the same and embrace the differences that we have instead of complain about them. Twi'leks might not make good fighters, but maybe some one see that as a challange and goes after that. Certain races are maybe meant to go with certain classes, but you are not required to, be creative try new things.




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Malichi - Master Doctor - Imperial Colonel
Masson - Master Swordsman
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Flyojumper
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:32 pm
#5

Translation:


Mwaaaaaahhh.... I didn't research my race choice enough and made a hasty decision, now I feel gimped and in order to make myself feel better, I believe every race shouldbe modified so no one can be a better rifleman than me.


Please point me to ONE post of the devs that said that all races should be equally good in any profession. Just ONE. Each race has its modifiers and stats range because some are better suited than others for a certain profession. You didn't research enough when you chose your race and created your character, that's all, it sucks but you have tolive with it. It only takes one minute to create a char, log in, and check the stat migration screen to see the range possible for each primary and secondary stat. The devs have NEVER said that every race should be equally good for any profession.

nihilix
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:34 pm
#6

That isn't the issue either. Before this game was launched, each race was supposed to be equal, and during the first month, everthing was the same except for the small bonuses. the ham migration caps were never, ever, mentioned. this is not fair to me, and people who thought this going into the game when the devs changed it about a month or two into the launch.


so the diversity was based on looks at first, and I even said that I picked Bothan initially because most people would be humans. the fact that a zabrak can have 900 willpower while I can have 500 is a major, major differance that drastically affects me. also, my forced 500 quickness is pretty bad too. this is not some little thing here.




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Previously Taidan Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Weaponsmith/Master Rifleman Bothan
Currently Taiden Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Doctor/soon to be Master Rifleman Human.
Selling newbie melon for 20 million credits
nihilix
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:37 pm
#7

this is before most of your time, it appears. notice my registration date... you don't have any idea what this is like, so stop trying to tell me whatI could have done, because at the time, there was zero information. only the fact that anyone can change there stats at any time.



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Previously Taidan Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Weaponsmith/Master Rifleman Bothan
Currently Taiden Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Doctor/soon to be Master Rifleman Human.
Selling newbie melon for 20 million credits
Mavirick
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:41 pm
#8

Yeah I might have 900 willpower, but I take a hit in the Action and strength catagories, and do to that fact I can't wear any armor, so look at the whole picture just don't look at one stat.



Mavirick Awei - Master Bounty Hunter - Imperial Colonel
Malichi - Master Doctor - Imperial Colonel
Masson - Master Swordsman
Maccus - Jedi
Flyojumper
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:43 pm
#9

Registration time has nothing to do with you playing the game on launch or not. It merely shows when you began using the forums...


I bought and played the game since June 26th and on June 26th you could, and I did, log in, create a character and check the stat migration screen to see that the stat range was different for all races. Heck even before launch I saw quite a few websites that listed hard caps on race stats, and the official guide released with the game even has them in it.


I'll stick with what I said: you didn't research your race choice enough and misread/distorted devs post, now you have to live with it. At NO TIME it was said that all races will be equally adept at every profession, it actually defeats the purpose of racial diversity in game...

nihilix
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:45 pm
#10

it was said often that this game would not let players be gimped like some other mmog's. the stat migration was to level the field. right now, this game is just as bad as the old ones.



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Previously Taidan Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Weaponsmith/Master Rifleman Bothan
Currently Taiden Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Doctor/soon to be Master Rifleman Human.
Selling newbie melon for 20 million credits
nihilix
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:50 pm
#11

and once again, i've already said, I have about 300 quickness that i'd move to willpower.


also, I made that decision about the time the beta players were allowed to talk. the faq said nothing at that time about this. it was not a hasty decision. bothans seem to be just as "strong willed" as Zabrak anyway, according to the current bio.




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Previously Taidan Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Weaponsmith/Master Rifleman Bothan
Currently Taiden Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Doctor/soon to be Master Rifleman Human.
Selling newbie melon for 20 million credits
Boborina
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:52 pm
#12

Well there needs to be some differences but non zabrak do get giped compaired to them... I think that they get a bit to much mind stuff where no one else can even compeat... 900 to some or most the mind stats is like what a wookiee (like me) gets from using mulon gold(ok a little less but youget my point).


Im Yes on racial deversitybut dont think one race should be all out superior. Wookiees get Action and Health bonues but we also cant wear armor... You dont need to nerf anything, the simple solution is to slightly increase players ability to put points into mind.


Well thats my opinion at least =)

Mavirick
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:55 pm
#13

Please please explain how you as a player are gimped, if you want higher mind there are things you can do.


1. Hook up with a Smuggler and get some spice.


2. Hook up with a Doctor who can buff your mind stats for 30 minutes.


3. Hook up with a Chef who can make foos to boost your mind stats.


Like I said, just cause we as Zabraks have higher mind, we have other stats that are gimped, We have to buy aromor and hope that we can get it sliced down so we can wear it otherwise we go with out. Heck look at trandoshens they get a 400+ to strength. No one is going around say gimp them. Just relaize you made a mistake in making your character and now you are blaming the game for your lack of research. You can always reroll your character and choose one that would be better fitted for the rifle class.




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Malichi - Master Doctor - Imperial Colonel
Masson - Master Swordsman
Maccus - Jedi
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