Rifleman Archive

Thread: All Non-Zabrak Riflemen...

nihilix
Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:01 pm
#14

no, mav., even if i got buffs, so could azabrak. so that isn't the issue.


again, i don't wear armor and don't care about the other statsAT ALL.


Iam not doing the 24 hour+ grind to master weaponsmith again.


I researched, at the time, off of this site and its faq. Bothans are spies, right? that is more of a mind game than anything else... along with this evidence, we have +20 cover and +20 camo


now let's see, what is the only class in the entire game that uses cover...? oh, yeah, the mind dependant riflemen. well, why are we giving this bonus to them and then gimp their mind stats to 600 focus and 500 willpower??


I want the Bothans' willpower level raised, at the very least, to 700, and the 600 min quickness dropped. since nerfing Zabrak is not a very popular decision, I will exclude that from potential fixes.




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Previously Taidan Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Weaponsmith/Master Rifleman Bothan
Currently Taiden Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Doctor/soon to be Master Rifleman Human.
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nihilix
Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:09 pm
#15

so can you guys, even the Zabraks, agree with me that Bothans should get at least 700 willpower and drop the min quickness to 400?


My reasons have been listed above, but the fact that Bothans are actually strong willed and that we have rifle bonuses built in, we deserve some mind ability to go with it.


Yes/No, expand




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Previously Taidan Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Weaponsmith/Master Rifleman Bothan
Currently Taiden Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Doctor/soon to be Master Rifleman Human.
Selling newbie melon for 20 million credits
Kachada
Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:10 pm
#16

I can feel your pain man.

I am a Zabrak, and I love it, but I'm also an Imperial. Before the game came out I found 2 different places including the "official SWG strategy guide" that said Zabrak were exempt from the Imperial Racial Prejudice.

I was happy.

I do my rifle thing for a few weeks, go up a few ranks in the empire, and then find out I'm getting a 2x racial penalty. Pfft.

I guess the moral is with MMORPG's things change too fast to count on anything remaining constant.



Kachada
Master Rifleman of Bria
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Krakoa
Aspiring Ranger & Swordsman

Mavirick
Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:12 pm
#17

Actually I as a scout and now a ranger use cover alot. The camo and cover skills a bothan had would have made sense for me to choose bothan for that reason. But I didn't and I didn't start with the intent of being a rifleman. I started wit hpistol, made it to specialist, then decided to switch to Rifle. You are going on the assumption that all Zabraks are rifleman. I know many that are dancers, crafters, brawlers, where the 900 willpower won't help them. You are complaining about something that was around since day 1 of the retailgame.



Mavirick Awei - Master Bounty Hunter - Imperial Colonel
Malichi - Master Doctor - Imperial Colonel
Masson - Master Swordsman
Maccus - Jedi
nihilix
Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:12 pm
#18

thank you, kachada, at least someone else has read the infamous "official swg strat guide" of old. 700 willpower is not much to ask in the face of its lies.



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Previously Taidan Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Weaponsmith/Master Rifleman Bothan
Currently Taiden Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Doctor/soon to be Master Rifleman Human.
Selling newbie melon for 20 million credits
Iodan
Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:13 pm
#19

Sorry bud, I can't see why they would change the race statistics in order to make it more playable for one or two professions.


I would much rather see them divert their energies elsewhere.


I am human with no doc buddies. I have a Willpower of 500. I learned to love drinking while playing.


Patron, El Toreso, Corazon, yes. Invest in Tequila, you will be happier in all endeavors.

Boborina
Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:13 pm
#20

You shouldnt be forced to use drugs to play the game... Thoughi do use them because there is no other way to play as a master rifleman.I should have the option to sacrafice MORE stats to buff my mind stats. I DO think that Zabrak should always be able to have moreif they wanted to but other races are caped REALLY low and i think the cap should be a little higher... IM not nerfing zabrak, they will always be able to have 300 more to mind stats im just asking for other classes to have the ability to have more than 600 focus/willpower.

Kachada
Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:13 pm
#21

Oh and dude, I wouldn't hold my breath on the "Make Bothans better Rifleman" campaign.

Besides, didnt the profile of thos hairy devils let you know that they were geared for the SCOUT profession? they get a big boost to scout XP across the board.



Kachada
Master Rifleman of Bria
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Krakoa
Aspiring Ranger & Swordsman

SikB
Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:13 pm
#22

This post is assinine. The devs didn't change anything as the original poster implys. Stat caps were in from the beginning. The cap information was also availible on many well known websites prior to release. Now i would like you to turn to page 17 or your adventure manual that came witht the game. Down at the bottom of the page there is a very brief description of the Zabrak race. Since i am such a nice guy i am gonna quote it for you. "Zabrak: A humanoid species with horns and tattoos. Zabrak have incredible willpower, but don't recover Health as quickly as other species." Now if you would have done as much research as you claim prior to your charactor creation you would have seen this and realized that they regen mind faster than any other species especially since a defenition of willpower is on the previous page.
Mavirick
Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:15 pm
#23

There was your problem you relied on a printed book, that was based off of beta not final code to make your choice. I bought the strat guide but I did not rely on it 100%. I went and researched other sites these forums and talked to beta players. Don't blame a printed book in your shortfalls with choosing a race.



Mavirick Awei - Master Bounty Hunter - Imperial Colonel
Malichi - Master Doctor - Imperial Colonel
Masson - Master Swordsman
Maccus - Jedi
nihilix
Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:16 pm
#24

sikb, you're reading the new faq.


and the only benefits we have is 1300 possible action. do scouts use that at all?


and most rangers/scouts use rifles. it just goes with the territory, and so if our race is supposed to fit that little niche, let's fit the niche.




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Previously Taidan Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Weaponsmith/Master Rifleman Bothan
Currently Taiden Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Doctor/soon to be Master Rifleman Human.
Selling newbie melon for 20 million credits
nihilix
Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:18 pm
#25

no, mav, it was online, on this site in the faq a long time ago... up until even after launch.




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Previously Taidan Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Weaponsmith/Master Rifleman Bothan
Currently Taiden Nihilix, Grumpy, Bitter Master Doctor/soon to be Master Rifleman Human.
Selling newbie melon for 20 million credits
Mavirick
Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:24 pm
#26

As scout foraging and taking cover cost action so yes I would have see a value in that 1300 Action cap. You are complaining about 1 race and 1 class. If you are going to start this campaign you need to go after every single race that has a bonus applied to it. Make sure you go after Trandoshens for the high strength, the wookies too, Make sure you go after the twi'leks for the high action, the mon cal for their high mind. All I see you doing is bitching about you race and your profession. I have see a few bothan master sharpshooters on lowca. They didn't complain, your just a poor sport.



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Malichi - Master Doctor - Imperial Colonel
Masson - Master Swordsman
Maccus - Jedi
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