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Thread: Rifleman = Gimped

Zariell
Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:30 pm
#1

Rifleman's reputation is as the "One shot wonder" faded quickly as people soon figured out that if they wear armor, it takes a good 4 shots even with a t21 to take someone out, even using Headshot 3.


Rifleman also suffer from a major XP drop, as there "Damage per minute" is MUCH lower then any other class in the game, thus, even in groups, they get the least XP of people there same level or even slightly lower then them.


Rifleman also have not that many usefull skills. Headshot 3, and Mindshot 2 are by FAR the most useful skills. The rest, are nearly junk (With the exception of a few)



Posture up attack? ??? What is that!


Enemie out of a covered state? What is that! no enemy i've seen even uses cover!, and pvp lasts no longer then 10 seconds so its junk there too


Suprise shot? What is that BS, you can already attack when covered so whats the point in this shot?



They also have the same range as everyone else, which means a master gunman can easily waste a Master Rifleman before the Rifleman can even get a shot off.


Ontop of that, rifleman get the Rifleman tree and thats IT. Other people are become Hybrid bonuty hunters, pistoleers, and smugglers to team up skills and get 140+ skills for pistol and carbine.



Someone help me here?





Corbantis
Zariell Lentanis - Light Jedi Knight
Master Powers FTW


Zariell
Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:32 pm
#2

Oh! Then they also suffer twice the damage from melee, forgot that bit too.



Corbantis
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Tanker9
Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:34 pm
#3

While Id say a master rifleman isnt gimp I will agree that we have some major issues needing fixin.



Isofly Neofly
Master Rifleman
Bloodfin
Zariell
Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:38 pm
#4

Not a gimp? What do you call something that cant match another combat class at the same level?


Im a expert sniper using a T21 well made rifle, with Intermediate range support, and my buddy who's a Pistol specialist can waste me everytime. (Were both wearing full sets of identical Chitin armor)


T21 vs Scout blaster


Headshot 3 vs body shot 2


The T21 with headshot 3 will lose everytime if the opponet is wearing armor.




Corbantis
Zariell Lentanis - Light Jedi Knight
Master Powers FTW


Flookmastah
Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:39 pm
#5

lol


again I say... at least (I hope) you didn't chose to play a Human/Rifleman/Squad Leader! Man did I get burned on all three of those coices or WHAT?!?!?!

Zariell
Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:42 pm
#6

just a pvp combat strip:


You go Prone


You Aim


You use Master Headshotat ---- and hit for 1624 points of damage (Actually deals 528 dmg to the guy, which is nothing to him)


--- Uses disarming shot and misses


--- Uses disarming shot and hits for 428 damage


Your knocked down


---Uses disarming shot and hits for 462 damage


--- Uses disarming shot and misses


--- Uses disarming shot ad hits for 382 damage


Your knocked down


---Uses Disarming shot and hits for 487 damage


You've been incapp'ed



Another is:


--- Uses eyeshot and hits for 628 damage


Your have trouble seeing clearly


You kneel


You Aim


---Uses Eyeshot and hits for 428 damage


You become incapped.





Corbantis
Zariell Lentanis - Light Jedi Knight
Master Powers FTW


Zariell
Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:45 pm
#7

Whats even better is that i lose 23-28 faction per one of my deaths and only gain 11-14 a kill.



Corbantis
Zariell Lentanis - Light Jedi Knight
Master Powers FTW


BaronJedi
Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:20 pm
#8

I really think you need to get more experience before calling the profession gimped.




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AldeonAvardulin
Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:29 pm
#9

That would be becuase the T21 is bugged as an AR0 weapon. Its suppost to be AR3, and penetrate armor, with bonuses. Im refering to you saying the T21 sucks.



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SWG-Skemo
Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:39 pm
#10

Unfortunatly I have to agree with Zariell, the Rifleman, in its current state is utterly gimped. I have HS3 and such, a very well made Tuskan Rifle sliced for speed (4.9). And I frankly am a mere shadow of the character I should be. My brother is a fencer and he utterly owns everything,I can barely hold my own in combat vs real opponents, as I had to resort to killing Langlatches (i.e. slow **edit**) to get any exp (but so much for that now). I'm really dissapointed in the whole Rifleman class, and am seriously thinking about surrenedring all the skills and going a different route, as the Rifleman is **edit** compared to the other intermediate classes (all melee classes, pistoller, etc *sigh* and I thought the Rifleman would be an awesome class...




Morven

Proprietor of Morven's Culinary Creations - Brenn (-3083, 3252)

Master Chef - Master Rifleman

"Cooking up death, one headshot at a time."
Aenema
Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:39 pm
#11

my thoughts exactly, it is an extremely flawed position that needs to be seriously reconsidered. it seems like after head shot 3, there is nothing even worth leveling for.
SWG-Skemo
Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:47 pm
#12

yeah I agree totally Aenema, after HS3 there really isn't any cool skills to get. Its just a whole lot a grinding for not a whole lot of reward.



Morven

Proprietor of Morven's Culinary Creations - Brenn (-3083, 3252)

Master Chef - Master Rifleman

"Cooking up death, one headshot at a time."
CloseHauled76
Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:49 pm
#13

According to the manual, the holocron, the strategy guide, and all the SOE BS rhetoric, the Rifleman class is the one that deals the most damage at the longest ranges. I don't see that happening. Pistols shoot just as far as rifles and have a MUCH higher DPS.
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