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Thread: Just Conducted a Rifleman/Block Test

Quidium
Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:22 am
#1

And the results were... still broken


THe test...



Full kinetic Compostie 80%

Loot CDEF rifle

Bestine Spice Fiends


I bought the rifle and walked out there with Katlyn, who has 92 to block. If course I have 150 to ranged defense, but they still hit me, about 1 out of 9 tries. My first opponet was a Ranged character, out of the 10 time he hit me not a single block. After his passing away up comes a brawler Spice addict and he attacks. Here's where it gets interesting. Not only did I block his attack about 8 times, but the armor hole still exists!!!!


So it looks like not only is block broken against ranged attacks, but the armor hole was NOT fixed.


Just a little FYI

Quidium
Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:29 am
#2

Just to add something, on averagee, with the armor I was getting floaty damage of 13 from melee's, when it says block it only tells you tyou blocked it but doesn't say anything about the ammount of damage you block, however my floaty usualy said around 7 when this happened.
MoridinTheSick
Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:51 pm
#3

i was watching my combat spam last night as i was fighting pikets/huurtons and noticed block showing up a few times
beamstalk
Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:56 pm
#4






Quidium wrote:

And the results were... still broken


THe test...



Full kinetic Compostie 80%

Loot CDEF rifle

Bestine Spice Fiends


I bought the rifle and walked out there with Katlyn, who has 92 to block. If course I have 150 to ranged defense, but they still hit me, about 1 out of 9 tries. My first opponet was a Ranged character, out of the 10 time he hit me not a single block. After his passing away up comes a brawler Spice addict and he attacks. Here's where it gets interesting. Not only did I block his attack about 8 times, but the armor hole still exists!!!!


So it looks like not only is block broken against ranged attacks, but the armor hole was NOT fixed.


Just a little FYI







Ok to really test it you need to do at least 100 shots, I would suggest 1000 or more. That way you get a better percentage of what is going on. 10 shots is just too small of a sample, the varience would be too big.



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EoZilbriss
Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:18 pm
#5

Funny, i was grinding the other day (last nite) and out of 10 shots from a Savage Quenker, 4 hit, and 4 more were blocked - IN A ROW. i blinked.



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Gimperial666
Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:53 pm
#6

Odd ive been a master riffleman for a while (like 3months) and i STILL havent seen a single block... of course i switch to my Sythe or hammer for melee... so that limits the attacks riffle skill can block. But in all my days ive never seen one block.

I can tell you counterattack works (except it doesnt send an attack BACK) ..well never mind that dont work right either I guess...Poor pikemen



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Quidium
Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:27 pm
#7

Oh to make you happy, block does not ignore armor. Or if it does, it blocks half of the damage then sends it to the armor calcuations, Image dump was down when I did this and I am at work now, but your combat log looks like this



alameass (a spicefiend) hits you but you block it!


your Katlyn's Valor Composite armor prevents 50 points of damage.


alameass ( a sipice fiend) swings at you but misses


You shoot at alameass ( a spice fiend) with your CDEF rifle doing 102 points of damage!


Blankgrun
Thu Apr 29, 2004 12:36 am
#8

From what I remember, Block is supposed to limit damage to 50%, but it ignores armor. So, it may be that the armor hole is fixed, but Block is still messed up.
PyscoJuggalo
Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:45 am
#9

Being that we are a pure ranged profession, if block only blocks melee- It's quite worthless unless you template with Pikeman



Were going to have to do more range testing though because your Ranged Defence is capped and that might have skewed the test.





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Nemgub
Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:50 am
#10

Um block doesnt work on ranged shoots FYI I know that it was nerver intented to. Block only works up close I know it sounds cool have lighting reflexes and throwing your rifle around at the speed of light to block lasers but it doesnt work that way. I am worried that block may do damage to your rifle not sure but after doing blocking test to see what it does I noticed that my rifle was major messed up this could just be that I over looked it but I dont think so.



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PyscoJuggalo
Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:10 am
#11






Nemgub wrote:
Um block doesnt work on ranged shoots FYI I know that it was nerver intented to. Block only works up close I know it sounds cool have lighting reflexes and throwing your rifle around at the speed of light to block lasers but it doesnt work that way. I am worried that block may do damage to your rifle not sure but after doing blocking test to see what it does I noticed that my rifle was major messed up this could just be that I over looked it but I dont think so.






Well then I must go Rifleman/Pikeman



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mescalinex
Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:15 am
#12

i ve been rifleman for uh..over a month or so. i ve seen it in the combat log maybe a dozen times and saw the actual block animation only ONCE.




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Objectivist
Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:58 am
#13

well when i was hunting on Dathomir last night, fighting Giant Terds


i really blocked alot more....


if anyone is going to do a good test or can recommend... thats it







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