Rifleman Archive

Hi,

I just posted this in the BH forums, but maybe I'd get some good feedback here, so I'm posting here too:


Well I've mulled it over quite a bit. I know jedi have 85% saber block and I know I'll have no mitigation, nor protection from being put on my green butt, dizzied...

But I can't resist. I don't _want_ to be a melee BH and I'm halfway up rifleman. So since I am going this route, I wanted to pick your brains. What do I have to load up on to be successfull?

I got really lucky and picked up some skill tapes and a sash for rifle accuracy from a guy that was quitting the game. So I'm wondering, if I have an additional (let's say) +15 accuracy from tapes, will this help me get through saber blockage?

For fighting a jedi, should I used master headshot? Or some other special?

As far as food, should I get more accuracy or defenses?

I realize I've taken the hard road. I don't expect to be very effective against a jedi that swings anything stronger than a flashlight. I guess I'm just stubborn, but nonetheless, I'd appreciate some help. (My last time around with BH was pretty terrible so it's not like I'm used to success.)

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Neelok wrote:
Hi,

I just posted this in the BH forums, but maybe I'd get some good feedback here, so I'm posting here too:


Well I've mulled it over quite a bit. I know jedi have 85% saber block and I know I'll have no mitigation, nor protection from being put on my green butt, dizzied...

But I can't resist. I don't _want_ to be a melee BH and I'm halfway up rifleman. So since I am going this route, I wanted to pick your brains. What do I have to load up on to be successfull?

I got really lucky and picked up some skill tapes and a sash for rifle accuracy from a guy that was quitting the game. So I'm wondering, if I have an additional (let's say) +15 accuracy from tapes, will this help me get through saber blockage? No, there is one roll to see if your accuracy beats his ranged defence, then if you hit, there is another roll to see if he blocks it. So you aren't even going to hit 15% of the time.

For fighting a jedi, should I used master headshot? Or some other special? I'd probably go with Strafeshot2 instead. It is more damaging so their pools drop faster when you hit them, this causes them to heal more often. It also is a random pool attack so the jedi will have to use something like /healallself which costs more force then /healmindself. If you're in a group though, everyone concentrating on one pool will be better. Don't forget about Flurryshot2, Startilingshot2, and Mindshot2. All three of these will help you get the jedi to that critical "zero force."

As far as food, should I get more accuracy or defenses? Defences. A jedi can slice someone with no melee skills in half. Even I as a TKM(natorius jedi killers) can get sliced in half if Ijust get caught with a rifle in my hand.

I realize I've taken the hard road. I don't expect to be very effective against a jedi that swings anything stronger than a flashlight. I guess I'm just stubborn, but nonetheless, I'd appreciate some help. (My last time around with BH was pretty terrible so it's not like I'm used to success.)

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Neelok wrote:
so it's not like I'm used to success.

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Barb-wire. I liked your previous post on being sneaky. I found it highly entertaining. I don't think my attitude hurts me. I simply wanted to use that statement to show you that I'm not the type who will bend all the rules to win. I was hoping that I could actually kill a jedi with a rifle alone, but I see that isn't really a dependable method.

Fremen (Dune fan?) I guess you have gone toe to toe a few times with jedi? Have you used brawler/rifleman? Or are you just telling me to get it if I want to have a chance?

In any event, the responses I got in the BH forum have pretty much been very anti-rifleman for the job. It's just that I did do BH + Carbines last time around and I thought since I'm halfway to master rifleman, this would be a cool (but apparently innefective) way to hunt jedi.

I was also hoping that hi accuracy (with the advantage of CA's and AA's) would give me some mathematical advantage when dealing with Saber Block. I guess I was wrong. Thanks for clearing that up.

I appreciate the advice. Thank you again.

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Neelok wrote:
Hi,

I just posted this in the BH forums, but maybe I'd get some good feedback here, so I'm posting here too:


Well I've mulled it over quite a bit. I know jedi have 85% saber block and I know I'll have no mitigation, nor protection from being put on my green butt, dizzied...

But I can't resist. I don't _want_ to be a melee BH and I'm halfway up rifleman. So since I am going this route, I wanted to pick your brains. What do I have to load up on to be successfull?

I got really lucky and picked up some skill tapes and a sash for rifle accuracy from a guy that was quitting the game. So I'm wondering, if I have an additional (let's say) +15 accuracy from tapes, will this help me get through saber blockage?

For fighting a jedi, should I used master headshot? Or some other special?

As far as food, should I get more accuracy or defenses?

I realize I've taken the hard road. I don't expect to be very effective against a jedi that swings anything stronger than a flashlight. I guess I'm just stubborn, but nonetheless, I'd appreciate some help. (My last time around with BH was pretty terrible so it's not like I'm used to success.)

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i just hope that when i am eventually on the boards someone like you is the one to get the DB on me if i am being hunted rather than an exploiter using warcry2 and dots and a gank squad. i have much respect for the lone BH doing the job solo against impossible odds and no respect for a gank squad that only wins through overloading a jedi's defenses with 20 attacks every second.

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Barb-Wire wrote:

for ranged fighting against jedi your going to have to get a little lucky and very sneaky and do a lot of stalking. however rifles is by far the best ranged skill to use on a jedi if your doing ranged attacks. jedi other than those taking up defender are very vulnerable to ranged attacks. what i mean by this is non-defender jedi take full 100% damage from blaster shots. while they block at 85% we jedi take full effect mitigated by nothing but the 75% pvp reduction. so if your bent on going ranged the highest damage rifle you can get is the one to use.

AP doesnt affect the damage being done to the jedi since they are not wearing armour and are vulnerable to all weapon damage. choose a weapon that deals out the highest damage you can get using the highest damage pup you can find.

your going to need that when the few shots you land get through you want them to count.

no ranged weapon user can go toe to toe with a jedi and win period when its a fair fight and both sides are fully aware of what is about to take place. you MUST as a ranged fighter use surprise and oppurtunity more than anything.

i used to be a bounty hunter waaay back and peruse their forums from time to time and still the same old negativity there as it was when the game launched. so take their "advice" for what its worth. your better off doing something you enjoy than trying to fit someone elses idea of fun and i have always had a soft spot for rhodians hehe

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Stick with the Rifles, they are fun (most important), and it will hone your stalking skills.

Follow this mantra

ABS

A - Always

B - Be

S - Stalking

Always be stalking :-)

The Jedi WILL screw up sooner or later and YOU will be there when he does. My advice is watch for Jedi who do space missions. They tend to forget to take their helmets off after their missions, and the helmet counts as armor and totally wastes their defenses.

Find out where they live, where their vendors are, find out who their alts are, who their friends are (remember a real BH is half combat guy but half detective as well). Best yet, is hire a ranger to go find out where the Jedi hunts, the Jedi wont suspect the ranger (especially if he hides his title) and you find out where hes grinding at. Then head out there and wait for him, and when hes all tied up with mob xyz ..BAM

yea you have picked the tougher road but I think its worth it, anyone can plow in and melee, but it takes real stalking skill(personal skill, not game skills) to go they way you are.