Rifleman Archive

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DeathtoallImps wrote:

This is my first post ever so please bear with me. I understand that the dev's can't give us extra range or make us invisible on radar, so I won't bother with even making that suggestion. However, there may be a way to still incorporate a sniper mentality. I suggest that when a rifleman uses the cover skill (which is rather useless at the moment) maybe change the color of the character's radar dot from red( or whatever it is) to yellow. This would make it harder for the enemy to spot. Once the target has been attacked then change the color to red.

I look forward to any comments on this suggestion.

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DeathtoallImps wrote:

This is my first post ever so please bear with me. I understand that the dev's can't give us extra range or make us invisible on radar, so I won't bother with even making that suggestion. However, there may be a way to still incorporate a sniper mentality. I suggest that when a rifleman uses the cover skill (which is rather useless at the moment) maybe change the color of the character's radar dot from red( or whatever it is) to yellow. This would make it harder for the enemy to spot. Once the target has been attacked then change the color to red.

I look forward to any comments on this suggestion.

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Glad to have you posting. Hopefully we'll see you around more in the future I'm not very knowledgeable on the technical feasibilities of this game, but I would love to see cover made more useful somehow. I think the Dev Team has a solution worked out since this issue has been around from launch. Whether cover will be made useful after the CB or whether it will be replaced with something different is still unknown though. As for keeping a sort of 'sniper mentality', that is something we are working to keep. The Headshots and Mindshots should be staying for the most part from what we know. Other than that, most things seem to be 'up in the air'.

What we are working to do is keep the Rifleman tree much the same as it is now(Infantry/Sniper hybrid)after the CB. Part of the problem is we don't know enough about what the Devs want to do with us. When we find out more, we'll be able to see what direction we're headed and what steps we want to take. Don't fret over anything right now- the sniper part of what we are is looking more safe than the rest of us for the time being.

Nice name by the way

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realvorda wrote:

to the person who said that the laser rifle can easily outdamage the t21 at faster speeds:

dmg - AP2 vs AP3, and t21 dmg gap is alot smaller!!

speed - doesnt really matters with current speed formula..

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Speed doesn't matter at Master. But it does at lower levels. At those levels the lower base speed and lower HAM costs of the Laser Rifle can result in the Laser Rifle outdamaging the T21 in sustainable damage. What was said was that the laser rifle can outdamage the T21 at slower speeds.

Though the T21 is generally favored because it's damage is more consistant. The T21 can be outdamaged at non-Master.

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Aeniepo wrote:

And does anyone know if Block has ever been fixed?

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It is still inferior to both Dodge and Counterattack, but it was indeed finally fixed.

DK_CRAKER wrote:

1. when i hunt, I am usually shooting from a couple hundred Yards away. not 64 meters

2. i have a 30.06 Ruger, its very nice and shoots at a nice speed. i could probably empty all 5 .30 cal. bullets in less then 7 seconds on a bad day, just imagine what i could do on a good day

3. when im not hunting deer with my Ruger, im using my 10 Gauge on pheasants and the like.

4. the military's Rifleman here use the M4 Carbine. which is 5.56 MM. i can match that with the laser rifle. and the M4 isnt all that accurate at a snipers distance. the T21 is more suited for that, kinda of like my 30.06

The US military uses the M16A2. The M4 is also used by some units. But there are more M16A2's in use than M4's. Neither the M16 nor the M4 is suited for sniping. The 5.56mm round is to light for that duty.

now upon thinking of that, i have come up with a few sugestions. not sure if this is what you were asking for, but your going to get it anyway

1.split rifleman into two. making

Rifleman: the close to medium range guys who use rifles, and shot-gun type weapons. or smaller rifles (think shotguns have become obsolete by now )

Sniper: the long to very long range guys, who use scoped wepaons, and big caliber rifles.

Devs have stated that they it would be to difficult to extend combat ranges beyond 64m. Which nixs the Sniper idea. Which is the reason for the question we have and the way it's worded. We can't be snipers given the current combat limitations.

or you could keep rifleman, and combine thetwo ideas above.

the way i see it most of the weapons we have at our useage, some what remind me of other weapons

T21- 30.06, or .35 pump or somting of that sort (long range-very long) I see it as a combination between a SAW or BAR and the Barett .50 . It's a light machine gun with lots of power.

Jawa Ion Rifle- some what small, and does stun damage. how does a small little rifle like that have a range of 64m? maybe cut it down (shotgun type weapon- short), but make it do better damage By looks it reminds me of a Blunderbuss. Though in use it's an EMP weapon.

DL20- good gunfor begining rifleman, reminds me of the M14 (medium to long) M14? I would think a nice .22 plinking gun.

DL20A- slightly better then the DL20, reminds me of the M-16 (medium to long) Same as above.

CDEF- standard gun. reminds me of a the old .45 repeater rifle(short- long) Another .22

Disruptor Rifle- deffinitly an H&K MP5 (short-medium) MP5 is a SMG. Not a rifle. Though if you want to keep the H&K reference I would go with the G3.

Berserker- actually havent figured one out yet

E11- more standard .45 rifle (medium-long) Wichester lever action.

Lithitanium Rifle- once again havent figured it out yet. In game it's just a modified Tusken. So you can use the same reference.

spraystick- is basically mace(short) but have a special ability to blind I think of it as a combat shotgun

Tusken- A very old Pennslyvania Long Rifle, from the American Revolution. (medium-long) .30-06 hunting rifle

SG82- reminds me of the H&K Bullpup design. the 5.56 one (medium-long)

Laser Rifle - M16, M14, or M1 Garand

Message Edited by DK_CRAKER on 07-08-2004 08:21 AM

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DK_CRAKER wrote:

right, but that is the basic infantryman weapon. the M1A62. excellent weapon might I add. but the M4 is more widley used by "rifleman" especially for US Spec Forces, and yes the 5.56 is way to light. even the 7.62 can't handle that

7.62mm round is the standard machine-gun and sniper round for NATO froces.

thats where i diasree. where as the .22 is a bigger bullet, deffinitly more power. the DL20 just doesnt seem to have the power that a .22 Ithika would. it just seems like it would fire a 7.62 bullet. same for the DL20A

The .22 is a much smaller round than the7.62mm . The 7.62mm is a .308 which isslightly reworked .30-06. The 7.62mm has much more power than the .22 .

a .45 winchester lever action

The .45 you are refering to is the .45LC (long colt). It is a rimfire cartridge that was popular because both the lever action carbines and the colt pistols could fire it. Makes it easier on the range if your ammo fits both weapons. However since it could be fired from a revolver, it has less power than later center fire cartridges that became popular in the lever actions. Such as the .32 Winchester Special.

i dont see how. it looks like mace, but if they modified what it looked like i could deffinitly see that

Graphic for this weapon is wrong. The weapon is suppose to be 1m in length, not 1foot.

this is another thing that i just cannot pull myself to agree with. its such an old looking and decrpid (sp) gun. and it's barrel is long, which sniper barrels are, but it seems like a musket. i dont know matter of opinion i guess

Muskets aren't rifles.

Laser Rifle - M16, M14, or M1 Garand

i could see it beingf the Grand or the M14... but M16 is too high a caliber gun, and too much different to put it in with them

M16 isa smaller caliber than the Garand or M14, not higher. The M16 uses a 5.56mm (.223) while the other two use a 7.62 (.30). I included it because the Laser Rifle seems like the standard infantry weapon. Something the M1 Garand, M14, and M16 all are or were.