Rifleman Archive
Thread: Final data on the T21
T21 fires energy, the most common resist. Commando weapons fire a bunch of differant exotic damage types.
What needs to be done is DEV's need to drop the blast resist on AT-ST's and future vehicles. Right now its 75% accross the board I belive.
Then take your commando heavy rocketlauncher (blast dammage). Make the dammage a little better than the T21's at AP3.
Now what you have is a commando thats doing 75%+ more dammage to the AT-ST and other vehicles than the sniper with our T21. Very fair don't you think?
Secondly and most important. I think we can all agree no one is ever going to 1 shot an AT-ST or simular armored vehicle. So that being said sniper or commando shoots one a split second later were dead currently.
Sooo....
Mines. Yes, snipers don't get mines. Commando's should be useing this. Lay your mines, use tactics to draw AT-ST's and other things into them. Much better survival rate and unique to your profession.
Also an addition of an EMP like weapon for Commando's would be nice. Something that shuts down vehicles for x amount of seconds.
I'm all for commando's being able to fill thier role. I'm also all for us snipers to fill out role. One of those roles happens to be anti-light armor.
As for the title thing of "rifleman". A rifleman is a grunt. A sniper is the most deadly, most trained, most efficient killer with a rifle. The Term Sharpshooter and Sniper are ambigous and depends on what application you use it in. Generally it means someone thats extreamly accurate with a rifle. In civilian terms the sharpshooter is a bullseye shooter. In law enforcment its the guy on the roof thats going to shoot the bankrobber behind the head from 200 yards.
Seeing were not bullseye shooters in SWG. And were not law enforcment. I would translate best if we were actually labled "Master Sniper" and not "Master Sharpshooter". A little thing I know, but its true. You may notice a lot of the riflemen refer to themselves as "Snipers". I'm a master sharpshooter, I opt to use the "Sniper" title rather than the sharpshooter. That title leaves no doubt that I am military, and hunting people..not paper targets or tin cans.
WOOT!!!! Something to look forward to if Starsider gets a nice roll with a shift ![]()
I think what you guys are missing is ... I dont care about RL. NEWS FLASH:T21IS NOT AREAL GUN.I know that a gun in RL can have heavy AP. This is a game. The reason for the 75% reduction in PvP damage is so there were not 1 shot kills. You guys just dont get it. If you can have a weapon that is 1 shot kill then everyone will take up rifleman. Its called BALANCE! Do you get this?? Any of you?? The reason everyone is/was a CH is cause they were WAY overpowered. If you make riflemen over powered then everyone will become a rifleman. How fun is that. The Dev's have pointed out on many occasions that your damage should be less cause you cannot heal mind damage out in the field. I know you want the "uber" class and that is fine. But just understand that when you have this EVERYONE will be a rifleman. And from reading a earlier post this is definatley a heavy commando type weapon, not a rifle.
Maybe you could take the time to stop laughing, and actually read his post?
He said IF riflemen had one shot kills, THEN they would be perceived to be uber, and everyone would rush to be one.
"forget it, i can't stop laughing long enough to respond, someone else do it......"
Okay . . . my response:
LordZeta -- you are an idiot. The idea of Rifleman becoming a FOTM class is too ridiculous to dignify with more than a long bout of protracted laughter. I mean, honestly, what were you thinking?
To Almi,
Yeah i'm fairly sure the ranges on my rifle have been fixed, it shows the correct ranges in the examine window and does respond correctly to my distances etc. As for the slice question, yes a slice does affect both the min and max damage and with a damage rating of 450 you should, with a good slice, be able to reach my damage level or maybe higher.
As another side note can i just add that i also now use 32% damage powerups (5K for 10) and this takes my damage to 262-806, allowing for some serious damage per shot. ![]()
OK, this is sad, for if you haven't noticed a lot of players play what they want, not just what is the most "Uber" class. If that was so there would be no DE's since the devs admitted it was the most "broken" profession. There would be no rangers since we are just master scouts, there would be no riflemen because we fire so slow. All that would be out there would be TK/CH's, and thought there are some, maybe many more than there should be, but it's not everyone.
I'm, a Ranger/Rifleman, not because the T-21 will be the baddest weapon in the game, but for two reasons. one I'm not a twitch player,I like taking time in setting up how I'm going to shoot my targets. Enjoy crawling up so they don't notice me, then aim, mind2, head2, head2, head2 ect... and hope I don't have to move. I also get caugh with, oops, pack, incap, no, don't walk over here, no, dang, dead. Secondly when I feel brave enough to get into pvp it has ranged deathblow. So while I'm still a slow palyer to take you out of the pvp all I have to do is shoot you, not get up, walk over to you and touch you. I'm old and slow and like to be able to hit a key better than having to manuver, esp when I'd get dropped in a sec since a wookiee w/no armor goes pretty fast when you know where he is.
I know plenty others who are NOT CH's and the CH'sI do run with don't just use their pets as meat shields, and are smart enough to heal them and not whine that they take too much dam now. Since the nerfed KD, from what is was, some have migrated from the skills that had them, but many who chose the profession for reasons other than an exploit are sticking with it.
Maybe one day they will fix every profession so they all do what they say and are more balanced. But seriously, unless they make conceal and conceal shot really work so I'm invisible on your radar and can snipe you from locations unkown, don't whine about rifleman being too powerful. I know of no rifleman who can take out a similarly exp player with any other combat prof 1vs1, let alone if there are 5vs5 or 10vs10. We are too slow, and even if the T-21 makes it into the battlefield, as has been constantly proven, if you are prepared, ie armor, shields, ect... there is no way for me to take you down in less than 2-3 shots, with optimal dam, not being shot at myself, and even so, can only maybe fire 2-3 more tiems beforeI am defenceless since I have no mind and can only do basic shots which do little to no dam vs a palyer in pvp.
I cant for the life of me figure out why people are comparing the T-21 with real life sniper weapons?
Unless some military is using repeating blaster rifles somewhere that Im not aware of, this obsession with the Sniper title having tomimic a real life military role being takena little too far.
Let the fictional world of star wars be. The T21 is just another crazy made up space gun.
well at least they met us halfway . nothing ubber but something that might be worth spending the 100k on . now if they would just put the gd resources on lowca maybe those of us on the lemon could test drive it when we arent being rolled back or unable to log in =D
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