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DVader539
Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:39 pm
#79

The speed vs. distance arguement is solid, except that hyperspace is very uncertain. The sppeds at which you're propelled pushes the very boundry of time units its self.

There is a theoretical unit of time that is the smallest one can measure, and the universe skips from time unit to time unit in the same way a movie projector works. Watched at speeds normal (24fps for film) it looks smooth and fine. But if you were to compare two consecutive frames, you'd notice a jump in the action. This is how the Universe works, but the time units are very, very small, so we generally don't notice them.

But traveling at hyperlight speeds is very, very fast. Faster than the Universe's time units may allow. Example...

Lets say you take your normal film camera and record an empty space. (normal 24fps here) You have a friend shoot a gun off so that the bullet passes within the camera's view. You then have the same friend pick up a gattling gun and fire 300 rounds off in the same space.

Upon looking at the footage, you don't see the first shot. Why? It moved too quickly to be in frame when the camera was taking its shot. It simply moved too quickly, and 99% of the time it won't be seen at all because it's not right infront of the camera when the film is capturing an image.

You take a look at the autofire footage. The gun fired off bullets at 120/minute. You count 6 bullets on screen (blurry streaks, but bullets nonetheless) The bullets were fired so closely and in such great quantities that statisticly you'll end up seeing some bullets.

The Falcon could travel so quickly that it jumps the maw's gravity shadow boarders. Therefor becaus ethe Falcon travels so quickly, a course closer to the Maw could be set and 99% of the time it'd be safe. As the Universe saw it, the Falcon simply would never be in the gravity shadow of the Maw. One frame it would be in space before the Maw, and in the next frame, it'd be beyond the maw.

That's one damm fast ship...



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Sotaudi
Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:50 pm
#80

beamstalk,


On question 1: True enough on the Kessel connection. But I am speaking more specifically about a significant event relatingto the Kessel Run itself as it relates to the movies.As I did in question 2, I should have clarified that this event is withinrecent events as it relates to the time frame of the game. You are correct about a Solo/Kessel connection later on, but I am speaking of a different connection, so the question is still open.


On question 2: You got this one. Hidden within the Maw is a secret research and development facility put there by the Emperor since, without force powers, it is virtually impossible to navigate inside the Maw. That makes it virtually unreachable and, therefore, secure. The Deathstar was developed there, and a prototype is later found there as is another superweapon that ends up having connections with Kip and Han, coincidentally enough.




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Sotaudi
Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:01 pm
#81

DVader539,


Your analysis may be true enough, but the question really related to why he used a measure of distance to describe a speed record. If it were just about how fast he made it, the record would still have been expressed in a measure of time. So without detracting from your analysis of why he could do it, I think the answer to the question relates to the fact that he cut distance out of the trip, not time.




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DVader539
Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:06 pm
#82

Whoops, yes.

He measured in distance because the Kessel Run is from a reandevue point to Kessel that Smugglers take. Usually it's a multi-jump path to avoid the Maw's garvity shadows, but if Solo could cut down on the jumps, he could travel a straighter path...

Regular 14 jumps, 15.6 Parsecs
Expert 9 jumps, 14.2 Parsecs
Solo 5 jumps, 12 Parsecs.



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beamstalk
Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:32 pm
#83






Sotaudi wrote:

beamstalk,


On question 1: True enough on the Kessel connection. But I am speaking more specifically about a significant event relatingto the Kessel Run itself as it relates to the movies.As I did in question 2, I should have clarified that this event is withinrecent events as it relates to the time frame of the game. You are correct about a Solo/Kessel connection later on, but I am speaking of a different connection, so the question is still open.


On question 2: You got this one. Hidden within the Maw is a secret research and development facility put there by the Emperor since, without force powers, it is virtually impossible to navigate inside the Maw. That makes it virtually unreachable and, therefore, secure. The Deathstar was developed there, and a prototype is later found there as is another superweapon that ends up having connections with Kip and Han, coincidentally enough.







1. hmmmm gonna have to think on that one, the only thing i can think of off the topof my head is (at work why the long time between replies ) "I think" Han did the run shortly after aquiring the falcon the first time. which of course we all know he won in a card game from Lando. but anyways i digress



2. the other weapon was the ship the suncrusher, what a cool ship, nigh invulnerable




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Sotaudi
Thu Jan 15, 2004 4:13 pm
#84

beamstalk,


You are gonna kick yourself when you hear the answer because I suspect you know it. It relate to important events in the films, but they never really make the connection directly. You are obviously familiar with events outside of the movies, so you probably know this.


Additional hint: The event in question has connections to specific events in all three movies, but the event in question did not occur in the movies.




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PyscoJuggalo
Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:44 pm
#85

Damit, Zeritul got it before me<Hope I did not misspell your name>



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CelesSun
Fri Jan 16, 2004 2:24 am
#86

Odd thing happened today.


Was going to my city's cantina.When i exited my speederbike it just hit first shift and ran away from me and reached the bank terminal.I mean,i was like"come back.please?!"


Stupid little thing trying to tell me something?

Zeritul
Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:27 am
#87

Hey CelesSun, I had that happen to me the other day. I had to chase it about 200m.


*eats corellian fried ice cream*


Thanks for the prize, if I think of any trivia questions I'll ask, but I'm not to good coming up with questions.


*kicks himself for not buying Star Wars trivial pursuit on sale for $15*

Shrik
Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:14 am
#88

Walks by, tips his hit, look sat his laser rifle and thinks... only 120k more rifle exp then i can join that club...


Shoots a rabid TKA and moves on patiently waiting his time...




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Sotaudi
Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:53 am
#89

Not so much a piece of trivia, but a fun fact none-the-less. In "EmpireStrkes Back" during the Hoth battle scenes, one of the AT-ATs gets destroyed and falls over. They apparently had trouble getting it to fall over for the shot, so if you watch carefully when it falls over, you can see a stickpokeup from under the floor under the left rear leg (if I recall correctly) to push the AT-AT over.


The funny thing is that, for some reason, they did not edit this out when they spent all that money to digitally update the film for the Special Edition version.By the way, it is not one of the ones that gets "tripped" by the snow speeders.


*Asks WayneInAustin toqueue up "Empire" next and have the pause button ready.*




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WayneInAustin
Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:04 am
#90






Sotaudi wrote:

*hands out prizes*


:
*Case of slightly singed, speed sliced T21s to DwayneInAustin for recognizing the discontinuity of the speed measure*
:





Dammit! I always get a speed-slice!

*Closes his eyes and wonders why Jawa Beer comes in a 3-pack*





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DVader539
Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:18 am
#91

*looks at hsi case of Muon Gold*

uhhh... This may sound odd, but I haven't done a drug in my life. I've heard so much good about hem, though... How do I use these?



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