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Thread: Petition for a new Team Lead.

Zarl0k
Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:56 pm
#53






AldeonAvardulin wrote:
So how were we nerfed? We have been nerfed once, the T21, an since they didnt remove Ar3, it wasnt that bad. But, every other nerf was a global nerf.




They reduced the damage to ~50% of its old value. 50% decrease in damage "wasn't that bad"??? We really do need a new correspondent.
AldeonAvardulin
Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:59 pm
#54

No they reduced base damage 100 points. Base damage is totally different then base damage with experimentation.



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RaskasBW
Fri Sep 05, 2003 9:16 pm
#55

Aldeon has been doing a fine job as Rifle Correspondant, it's just a shame that there are so many misinformed Riflemen running around. I give a big fat /rejection on this petition. But that's just my opinion ...

Keep up the good work Aldeon, you're doing fine.



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Zarl0k
Fri Sep 05, 2003 9:33 pm
#56

I've seen T21s appraoching 600 damage prior to the nerf, not on my main server, but out there. At least 250-550, because I've seen them over that.


That's pretty close to a 40% or so reduction in effectiveness with the newer ones.


AldeonAvardulin
Sat Sep 06, 2003 12:01 am
#57

With Flushing Shot 2 - 480-1230



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Noules000
Sat Sep 06, 2003 12:21 am
#58

I didn't say the accuracy issue or the suppression fire issues weren't nerfs. However, it was implied that those happened without us being told about it. This is incorrect; we were informed of the changes before they went on live, by a matter of several weeks.

Furthermore, they are not RIFLEMEN nerfs. They are nerfs to EVERYONE who uses posture change/KD and can shoot at moving targets or shoot while moving. Pistoleer, carbineer, BH, and ALL MELEE have more posture change/KD moves than riflemen do. We were among the LEAST impacted by this change.

LLC base damage is around 400-700, base. I assure you I can do more with a special than 400-700, and at a much faster rate than any BH using a LLC. LLC no special is worse than rifle special is worse than LLC special. LLC special range is 16m. Outside of that range the LLC is outdamaged by a master rifleman.

Yes, I'm a master rifleman (master rifle/marksman/SL). I agree the changes make levelling rifle somewhat more difficult - but not particularly more than any other weapon. The way I levelled was double-dotting mobs and using warning shot. There's nothing that has change which would prevent this from still working. Arguably, the warning shot will be harder to hit due to the movement modifiers - but that's why you have aim. Aim only adds 1 second to your shot delay, and when you're talking about long delays at lower levels of rifleman anyway, it's a relatively small nerf. Also, you don't have to use your best gun for WS. Using a lower level weapon with better range mods (and lower HAM cost) is a much better idea, anyway.
ChronisSWG
Sat Sep 06, 2003 12:39 am
#59

haha, Hmm, lets see.


Pistoleer is curently a pee shooter, with 1 shot that works decently and its on random pools,


Tailers didnt get decay on clothing. Archtects and DE are needing a fix.


Carbineers aoe kd dosnt work correctly.


CH's got a huge nerf.


Smuglers are a broken class in some aspects, panic shot, no expierementing on spices, slicing(but it might be fixed now).


I dont know much about the Squad leader prof, but i know they are broken also.


Im not even going to get into all the melee probs. Maybe we should go and fire all these corespondents. Do u look at the other classes at all. jeezus people just post without any thought of whats going with other classes. Riflemen are pretty **edit** set and im content on where they stand now. anything else would be flavor. We do mind damage people, unhealable, and with knockdown nerfed, u get up and headshot at master once every second means game over or strafe shot 2.

Hawkenz
Sat Sep 06, 2003 12:53 am
#60

Yeah hell with it I agree, screw everyone else who isn't master rifleman. I already have it, I am uber at master rifleman, why should it take others the same time it took me to get here. Hell lets make it 15x harder.


And on top of all that, lets use our class as the base for all classes on pvp damage. And nerf or un-nerf us according to how things are working out.


Hell there is no need for any weapons besides a T-21 either since I shoot in 1 second with it at master riflemen anyways. So lets get rid of all the other ones, no one else matters but the masters.


And lastly I looked at all the damage you kust posted ava and with the 75% pvp damage reduction can you still explain to me who you are one shotting?




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Schnokt
Sat Sep 06, 2003 2:25 am
#61






AldeonAvardulin wrote:

Also On a side note, In PvP, I still one shot kill.







Also On a side note, In PvP, I still one shot kill.




That's strange.... At least on my server there isn't a single rifleman that can accomplish that feat. Maybe a 3 shot kill if you are lucky. Which is never after being knocked flat on your posterior by a BH..... Why don't you share this knowledge with the rest of us on how you accomplish this feat, because as far as I am concerned Rifle is only effective in PvE.



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TekDragon
Sat Sep 06, 2003 2:38 am
#62

Aldeon,


If you dont know how we're broken: resign. We are broken in SO many ways. Accuracy, DPS, HAM costs, specials, etc, etc, etc.


Seriously, resign. Lets get a coorespondent who:


1. Plays a rifleman
2. Listens to the people he represents





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Boborina
Sat Sep 06, 2003 3:00 am
#63

I may not agree with our team leader but i dont think he has done a poor job.


He gives good advice to levelingbut these nerfs are making us gimpcompaired toother classes and he should be angry about it too. The global nerfs HIT US THE HARDEST!!! Since we can no longer effectivly use dizzy, supression fire and lowered our dps how are we to stop melee? I dont know ANY rifleman on Wanderehome that can one shot anyone in pvp unless their targets mindis like 300... Plus this hurt us in PvE even more than PvP, without dizzy i can no longer effectivly kill humanoid npcs, and even harder time killing any melee mob without supression fire . If we fear the mob we lose serious accuracy. If we chase the mob then we get a double penalty for accuracy... I will be master rifleman in less than a week and maybe my opinion will change but i dought it. Rifleman are Gimp atm


You see the dmg on the LLC or commandos stuff? How is the oldT 21 overpowered with those in the game even as AP3? And yes i have seen them one shot people in pvp...


Just because its global doesnt mean it isnt a hugenerf to us... But i vote to keep you hehe


DemetryB
Sat Sep 06, 2003 4:35 am
#64

/sign petition
mchristie
Sat Sep 06, 2003 5:11 am
#65

hawkenz your a complete FOOL. This about sums it up.
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