Rifleman Archive
Thread: Final data on the T21
There's some bragging rights for ya! lol
Heavy?? I really dont understand this. Someone please explain. Why would a rifle have Heavy?? It should be light ... medium at the most.
Um, According to the RoE, .50 calibers are only allowed to be used on equipment in war, or tanks, etc. So, in order to get around this rule without upsetting military officials, snipers aim for the canteens. The shockwave from the bullet passing through the center of a canteen can rip off a mans arm and shoulder from his body. Now tell me, does that not sound like a "heavy armor piercing" rifle to you? Might I add, a t21's barrel looks like a leg ripped off from a Grand Piano.
Oh and one shotting from a rifleman, well you dont have to worry about that much anymore, I mean it takes me usually 2 shots with a t21 using strafeshot2 to knock someone out cold, but honestly, wouldnt you expect someone with the "sniper" title whos using "headshots" to kill someone in 1 hit? It only makes all too much sense if you ask me..
I agree with you on the need for the Rifleman to do one-shot sniper kills Dilan, in fact I have outlined a possible way which this could be implemented while still being balanced. Check out my thread Headshot4: One Sniper's Suggestion if you haven't already. If anyone else feels that this type of skill should be implemented I suggest you check the thread out as well. If we can set up a system and tweak it to perfection there is a chance that the devs might consider it...Just a shameless plug, but check out the thread nonetheless if you're interested. You might find it interesting as well, Holo.
"Um, According to the RoE, .50 calibers are only allowed to be used on equipment in war, or tanks, etc. So, in order to get around this rule without upsetting military officials, snipers aim for the canteens."
This is a military "urban legend". There is nothing anywhere in the Law of Land Warfare or the Geneva Convention (which is what the Law of Land Warfare is based on) that stipulates anything of the sort.
So, feel free to use your Ma Deuces and your Barrett's against enemy personnel in good conscience.
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I'd rather have higher dmg than ap3 seeing how ap3 doesnt work in pvp!!!
why don you just upgrade the laser rifle's min dmg and ap and throw away the shlT21 ?
are we still going to have the t21 with a higher chance to hit?(even though we will never be able to tell if it is working so just say yes to pelase us)
Disappointed rifleman once again...
Also- can we get the glitch of the "dangling object" protruding out of the tip of our T21's fixxed?
And can we get a real 'Master's" title? like Master Sniper or Sith Lord(lol)?
A Barrett Light 50 is not heavy armour-piercing. Heavy armour piercing is the domain of DRAGONs, LAWs and 30mm autocannon with API rounds.
Until they implement AP4 or higher, AP3 should be confined to HEAVY weapons. A Rocket Launcher with proton warheads is heavy armour piercing. A Jedi using his lightsabre to melt through blast doors is heavy armour-piercing.
Those should be AP3... if the T21 is AP3, heavy weapons and cannon should be AP4, really.
Excuse me? I would think that if a .50 caliber bullet can leave a bowling ball size hole in a tank, that a high tech laser rifle would be able to be ar3.
And have you honestly ever see the t21? everytime someone asks me what it is I reply "its a Cannon. No really, its a cannon, watch me do 10000 damage on that chuba, see, cannon"
"I would think that if a .50 caliber bullet can leave a bowling ball size hole in a tank"
It won't. ![]()
Regarding pre and post patch T21's.
My T21 is 451 damage and the AP was the only thing that changed, from 3 to 1 and now soon to 3, however the damage stayed the same. I am not sure if this was because it wasn't high enough damage to warrent a change, but now it's outside the range i guess we will see.....Lets hope it stays the same and ill pop it away for a rainy day ![]()
and get back on topic please!
Yea! It's back. For those complaining, why? Yes it isn't he super-uber weapon we've all dreamed about, but it's better. Would I like to see it return to it's original stats? Hell yes, but I'll take what I can get for the moment.
Though I have argued with my freinds about why we have should have 1-shot kills they bring up a very good point, if we did, all you would see is, "waaa the rifleman hit me, mommy!"
I think the high HAM and slow fire rate should be penalty enough, but then again I guess it's the devs gf/wifes that play CH/Pistoliers and they have to keep their home life happy.
We still lack the effect of, "Fred dropped in a burst of light, a few seconds later you hear the crack of the charge that can only be used in a T-21, faces drained, everyone dives for what cover they can find", but I'll take an AR3, hopefully 150-350 rifle any day over my 7-323 laser rifle.
Though the comps to rl are sometimes funny, guys you really do have to give up comparing what munitions we have to what should be available in the game. Otherwise where are the RPG's, TOW's, LAW's ect... to take out armor. What about limits of clips, no pistol fires as far as an assault rifle, no assaault rifle fires as far as a sniper rifle, and if I hit you with any, you won't be charging me to take me out with your 2-hand sword. It's nice to dream, but give it up.
Maybe one day, finagle willing, the devs will balance the three main ranged weapon professions, so all have a way to be a use on the battle field. Commando's will be made for use against armor or fortified positions and BH will be the master of sneak attack takedowns on their targets. Or maybe they will make it so true group tactics will be usable where riflemen support the main troops, carbineers, while pistolieers defend the front ranks against the kamakazi unarmed and melee fighters, though I fear those days are far, far into the future.
Being ex-military myself, and a lover of tactics, I would love the combat in the game develope to the point of relying on the players brainpower to figure out how to beat another other than which weapon can be exploited the fastest to win all battles.
Though I have done my share of whineing I hope the devs can sort through all of ours, whether whine or actuall complaint to make the game better. You have something that can be great here, lets hope you don't give up before it is.