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If the title of this thread had been Take cover is fixed I would find that relevant, although since it isn't I will just thank you for the amusing anecdote.

You can use other specials from cover. (someone sai dyou coudl not)

I use cover a lot, it helps a little in PVE vs Ranged NPCs.

In PvP I have tried it in duels against pistolairs, trying to get the drop on them. The one I remember most vividly is 4 attempts at 70m. Pistolair closes, we are both spamming, he disarming shots me 1st everytime, I'm knocked down at 65m, he preceeds to finish me with 3-4 bodyshots.

Out of the four attempts he he never missed once. I should also point out my chr is a prue combat chr, master rifleman, with some melee mastery, at the time my ranged defense was in the low 50s as well as covered.

Surprise shot as I understood was supost to be for extra damage. 2.0 muliplier does not seem like much to me. Other hard hitting shots get a 3.0-4.0 muliplier....and they don't have to be in a covered state.

Also as a master rifleman I have a total of +80 bounus to cover. It still is fairly hard to get into the covered state. Commonly it takes me 2-3 trys, my worst streak was 9 failures.

You guys need to explore your abilities more. I can't believe you've got sneak already and you didn't realize that you were immobile under cover without it. And the reason you move so slow isn't a bug. Slow crawl speed is the penalty for keeping the defensive bonus of cover while able to move around a little.

*curses the lack of an edit function*

I think you misunderstood, GMoon. We aren't talking about movement WHILE under cover.. we realize that we are supposed to move very slowly then. We are talking about the bug that causes our run speed to be reduced to walk speed (or below) when we stand up, AFTER taking cover.

I have explored my abilities fine, thank you.

Works no matter what(ei: while standing), does headshot2 damage amount and hits random HAM, not sure what the point of this shot is. Discription is "This ranged sneak attack must be performed from cover".

No one has any ideas, thoughts, flames, or similar experiences?

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If this attacks purpose is only to do one quick hit before it breaks cover, wouldnt it make more sence to use an headshot with high damage modifier rather then using surprise shot with an moderate damage modifier? If your going to one shot something? That will aggro you after the first shot anyway? I dont get it, this surprise shot thing is harder to get, and it will break cover when used, and does less damage then headshot 3 for instance?

So... why? Whats the point? Will anyone really use cover to use this attack?

How well does Surprise Shot work, and exactly what does it do or what is the best use for it? I have only a limited number of skill points left, and I'm trying to decide whether to get it or Conceal Shot. I am going for Ranger as my primary skill so I know Conceal Shot would definitely be useful for me.

I think it works like conceal shot, where a mob won't see you until you miss. From my limited tests it seems to have a damage mutiplier of x3 (think headshot 3)and it hits a random pool. It has the HAM cost of headshot 2, and you are not required to use it from cover anymore (bug?).

It DOESNT work like conceal shot , try shooting something with it , even if you dont miss, it'll warp and you etc..

IT'S >>>> B R O K E N <<<<

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Master Rifleman - Weaponsmith

I guess I killed the mob before I ran out of the free shots you get for being prone + in cover. At least it's not as broken as it used to be, it used to be a carbine skill.

It only took them 3 months to fix that, by christmas it might be working ok.

If you start shooting prone you get roughly 3 shots at any level of the rifleman tree, that would be your delay. Surprise shot DOES however have a high dmg modifier so it's essentially like a flushing shot II except single target. I use it alot just because it can hit upwards of 3300 in a single hit in a random pool , and thats more than enough for any NPC's biting your heels.